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Period: 1980s
"Stacked" Quarter Round Corner Table by Steve Chase
By Steve Chase
Located in New York, NY
Quarter round corner table by Steve Chase.
The table was designed to resemble a stack of different sized elements. It has a warm faux stone finish
...
Category
American Mid-Century Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Wood
Black Lacquer and Glass Geometric Square Coffee Cocktail Table Postmodern
Located in New York, NY
A very beautiful geometric square coffee/cocktail table in black lacquer with glass top, Postmodern period, late-20th century, 1980s. Glass top has beveled edge and is 'inset' into coffee table frame. Table measures: 33.38" square x 16.25" height.
Seashell shown, search 1stdibs ID#: LU1314215718841 (SOLD)
For pair of tall black vases...
Category
European Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Glass, Wood
Pair of Red Travertine Nesting Side Tables by Cattelan Italia, 1980s
Located in Chicago, IL
A pair of 1980s side tables by Cattelan Italia featuring round red travertine tops and bases with gorgeous veining. This pair stands at different heights, allowing them to nest toget...
Category
Italian Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Travertine, Metal
Console Table in Tubular Chrome and Glass
Located in Littleton, CO
A sleek late Mid-Century tubular chrome and glass console table for a variety of uses - sofa table, entry hall, etc.
Top and bo...
Category
American Mid-Century Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Chrome
$595 / item
A Unique Carved Horse Wood Dining Table
Located in London, GB
A remarkable Carved Trunk Wood Dining Table, meticulously carved from a single section of tree by a skilled artisan over the course of twelve months. This exquisite piece exudes a ri...
Category
Romanian Folk Art Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Glass, Wood
Jonathan Bonner Granite Postmodern Coffee Table, circa 1980, Signed
Located in Los Angeles, CA
Such character and charm in this signed Postmodern sculpture that also functions as a coffee table. Jonathan Bonner is an accomplished sculpture artist known for his solo work and his collaborative work with Judy Kensley McKie. This sculpture from the 1980s features a granite top over an aluminum platform base with a series of six aluminum legs which resemble bird feet. Signed underneath by the artist.
This Postmodern cocktail table...
Category
American Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Granite, Aluminum
$3,800 Sale Price
46% Off
1980s Pace Collection Black Lacquered Occasional Table on Casters
Located in Philadelphia, PA
This is a Black Lacquered Occasional Table, attributed to the Pace Collection. The piece was produced in the 1980s in Italy and features handy casters to allow for ease of movement. ...
Category
Italian Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Steel
1980s Knob Creek Burl Wood Nesting Tables
Located in Doylestown, PA
Elegant Knob Creek 1980s burl wood nesting tables. This handsome set features clean lines, subtly carved detail and burl wood tops protected by a glossy ove...
Category
American American Classical Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Wood
Green granite dining table, 1980’s
Located in Delft, NL
Green granite dining table, 1980’s
Beautiful dark green granite dining table from the 1980’s.
Dimensions: 72cm H , 100cm W, 100cm D
Materia...
Category
Italian Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Granite
Marquis Collection of Beverly Hills Game Table & Chairs
Located in Los Angeles, CA
Marquis Collection of Beverly Hills
Tessellated Stone Game Table & Pair of Chairs
Chess / Checkers Top Board slides into lower compartment revealing Backgammon Board underneath
On...
Category
American Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Stone, Marble
Amazing pair of side table by Garouste et Bonetti
Located in SAINT-OUEN-SUR-SEINE, FR
Paire de tables pliantes par Elizabeth Garouste et Mattia Bonetti.
Ces tables sont une commande spéciale pour le salon de haute couture de Christian Lacroix en 1987.
Category
French Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Wrought Iron
$19,127 / set
Post Modern Lucite and Brass Round Side Table
Located in San Mateo, CA
Acrylic and brass post modern round side table. The profile of this table resembles a neoclassical garden urn. The acrylic sides are 1 1/2 inches thick. The base is cast brass that w...
Category
American Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Brass
Vintage Modern Travertine Console Table with Quarry Edge
Located in Raleigh, NC
This quarry edge travertine table has a minimalist quality to it given the simplicity of the material. The exposed table top and the base are smooth. The table top has a quarry edge,...
Category
Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Travertine
Large Scale Robert Whitton Prototype Coffee Table
Located in Phoenix, AZ
This large-scale coffee table, designed by the esteemed architect Robert Whitton, is a stunning example of craftsmanship and design excellence from the late 20th century. Constructed...
Category
American Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Aluminum
Costal Style/ Bohemian Split Bamboo and Rattan Boho Side Table. Circa 1980s
Located in Miami, FL
Vintage Costal Style/ Bohemian Split Bamboo and Rattan Boho Side Table. Circa 1980s
Features a sculpted rattan and split bamboo frame with oval shaped edges and a removable glass top...
Category
Unknown Bohemian Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Rattan, Glass
Memphis Geometric Coffee Table, Italy, 1980s
Located in Antwerp, BE
Unique 1980s Memphis coffee table, crafted from pine wood, featuring bold geometric shapes, including a circular blue tabletop that contrasts beautifully with the natural wood tones....
Category
Italian Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Glass, Wood, Pine
Monteverdi Young Dining or Conference Table
Located in North Hollywood, CA
Large 2 piece dining or conference table in good vintage used condition. Great design on the base and top. Minimal signs of use. Top is very heavy and large.
Category
American Mid-Century Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Wood
$4,640 Sale Price
28% Off
Art Deco Style Sculptural Post Modern Arched Tessellated Stone Cocktail Table
Located in Chattanooga, TN
Art Deco inspired, elegantly curved tessellated stone coffee table. The table base is made of Mactan stone, a type of coral. It seems fitting that this base made of coral mimics the ...
Category
Philippine Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Stone
Set of 3 brass regency nesting tables, Belgium 1980s
By Belgo Chrome
Located in Antwerpen, VAN
This set of brass side tables showcases the Hollywood Regency style with its clean lines and reflective surfaces. Each table features a simple, rectangular form and a mirrored top, s...
Category
Belgian Hollywood Regency Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Brass
Laura De Lorenzo Stefano Stefani table Achab 1980s
By Pallucco
Located in bari, IT
Pallucco opening table mod. Achab , design Laura De Lorenzo and Stefano Stefani ,production 1980s .
Bibliography for comparison
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Category
Italian Mid-Century Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Metal
Postmodern Marble and Brass Console Table in the Artedi Style. Circa 1980s
By Artedi
Located in Miami, FL
Postmodern Marble and Brass Console / Entry Table in the Artedi Style. Circa 1980s.
Features a minimalist design with a marble base with beautiful stone veins, polished brass glass s...
Category
Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Marble, Brass
Postmodern Orange Lacquer Laminate Geometric Console Table
Located in Delray Beach, FL
Discover the Postmodern Orange Lacquer Console Table, featuring a geometric design and vibrant finish, perfect for contemporary spaces.
We se...
Category
American Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Wood
Charles Hollis Jones Le Dome Lucite Dining Table
Located in Palm Springs, CA
Le Dome lucite dining table designed by Charles Hollis Jones and manufactured by Swedlow, an aviation aeronautics specialist in California. Table created the for Charles Hollis Jone...
Category
American Mid-Century Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Brass
Karl Springer Style Faux Ivory Tusk Brass Disc Glass Console Table Regency 1980
Located in Miami, FL
Karl Springer attributed Console Table features a Faux Ivory Tusk which rests on a black lacquered Granite Base. The Tusk Supports a heavy Glass Top with round edges and is mounted v...
Category
American Hollywood Regency Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Composition, Granite, Brass
$4,830 Sale Price
30% Off
"Brutalist" coffee table or bench in carved elm France, circa 1980
Located in Paris, FR
A very pretty Brutalist-style bench or coffee table in carved elm.
Lenght: 165 cm (65 in /5.42 ft)
Width: 49 cm (19.2 in)
Width in the middle: 38 cm (15 in)
Height: 45 cm (17.7 in)
Category
French Brutalist Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Elm
Karl Springer Signed 'Mark II" Lucite Coffee Table
Located in Dallas, TX
A large scale lucite and glass 'Mark II' coffee table designed and signed by Karl Springer.
Category
Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Lucite
Solid Bronze and Faux Shagreen Center Table in the Style of Maison Bagues
Located in Los Angeles, CA
Center table with metallic faux shagreen top and solid bronze legs. In the style of Maison Bagues.
Category
French Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Bronze
1980s Nicos Zographos Side Table in Polished Stainless Steel w/ Black Marble Top
Located in Philadelphia, PA
This is a black marble and stainless steel side table designed by Nicos Zographos and produced by Zographos Designs Limited. Zographos is known for his exquisite metal furniture.
...
Category
American Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Marble, Steel
Mid-Century Modern Two-Tiered Lucite Coffee Table
Located in North Hollywood, CA
This exquisite vintage lucite coffee table, manufactured in the United States circa the 1980s, is a stunning piece that perfectly captures the elegance of mid-century design. The two...
Category
American Mid-Century Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Glass, Lucite
Asian Style End Table made in Italy by William Switzer
Located in Los Angeles, CA
A striking round side table handcrafted in Italy by William Switzer, known for his refined and decorative furniture designs. This piece showcases a deep black lacquered finish with e...
Category
Italian Chinoiserie Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Wood
Signed Budji Layug Bamboo and Fossiliferous Limestone Top Coffee Table
By Budji Layug
Located in New York, NY
Signed, Budji Layug Bamboo and Fossiliferous Limestone Top Coffee Table. The frame of the table is bamboo and leather with an "X" stretcher...
Category
Philippine Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Stone
Set of 3 Low Swivel Tables, made in Italy 1980s
Located in Palermo, IT
Set of 3 low swivel tables, made in Italy 1980s
Enamelled metal wire structure and glass tops.
Good condition.
Category
Italian Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Metal
1980s Pastilles Illuminating Coffee table by Ado Chale
By Ado Chale
Located in Paris, FR
Ado Chale
‘‘Pastilles’’ illuminated coffee table, 1983
Mosaic of cornaline agate stones and resin
H. 35 x 150ø cm
Son of a woodworker, Ado Chale spent his formative years in the Belgian countryside and began working with metal at a young age, training initially as an iron-worker. In the 1950s, he began working with sheet metal on which he would test various methods of printing with enamel. However, it was on a trip to Germany that he found his true passion: mineralogy. Stones, precious and semi-precious as well as fossils and other natural minerals, became the focal point of his self-taught artistic path.
In 1961, Chale opened a mineral shop in Brussels where he showed his first creations featuring inclusions of marcasite, a dark stone he discovered on the beaches of the Cape of Blanc- Nez in northern France. By 1965, these creations had garnered significant attention and he began to widen the range of his creations. He began working with a great variety of stones and fossilized wood and developing new techniques, one of the most remarkable of which is featured in the ‘‘Pastilles’’ coffee table: the integration of light.
Noticing the transformation of certain stones when lit from a certain angle, Chale aimed to demonstrate the delicate details that remained hidden without this illumination. With this objective in mind, he began integrating lighting systems beneath the mosaic tops of his coffee tables, a rare technique of which Chale was a true pioneer. Beyond the striking effect achieved through the illumination of his tables, Chale’s mastery in mosaic resulted in truly unique tabletops - no two mosaics exactly the same.
Over the years, Chale’s creations found their way into some of the world’s most prestigious collections, both private and public, including those of the British royal family, the King of Saudi Arabia, Belgium’s King Baudouin and Queen Fabiola, and Queen Juliana of the Netherlands. 2014 marked the 50th anniversary of Ado Chale’s creation, an occasion celebrated with a landmark exhibition at the Galerie Yves Gastou.
Category
Belgian Futurist Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Agate
Karl Springer Attr Free Form Postmodern Amoeba Coffee Table Chrome & Black Glass
Located in Philadelphia, PA
Attributed to Karl Springer, this piece was made in the 1980s in the US. Dynamic and dramatic, it is sure to be the statement piece in your home. Built on a frame of square steel, th...
Category
American Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Steel, Chrome
Regency Console Table Walnut Sofa Tables
Located in Potters Bar, GB
High end Regency revival console table in walnut
Such a clean and classical piece refined for contemporary interiors
Love the base on four splayed feet
Offered in great condition rea...
Category
Regency Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Walnut
Baker Furniture Neoclassical Cherry Wood Pedestal Extension Dining Table
Located in South Bend, IN
An exceptional Neoclassical or Empire style split pedestal extension dining table
By Baker Furniture, "Palladian Collection"
USA, Circa 1980s
Book-matched cherry wood, with eboniz...
Category
American Neoclassical Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Cherry
1980s Hand Painted Southwestern Steel Cut Dogs Folk Art Coffee Table
Located in Fort Lauderdale, FL
On offer on this occasion is one of the most stunning and rare, hand painted coffee table you could hope to find. Outstanding design is exhibited throughout. The beautiful table is s...
Category
North American Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Steel
Karl Springer Scroll Table in Embossed Lizard 1988 (Signed & Dated)
Located in Dallas, TX
Beautifully crafted embossed lizard leather scroll table by Karl Springer, 1988 (signed with label on bottom "Karl Springer 1988")
Matching pair of chairs available separately.
Category
Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Leather
A Large Marble Top Circular Table, circa 1980
Located in Petworth, West Sussex
A Large Marble Top Circular Table, circa 1980. The segmental fossilised marble veneer with darker outer band and central circle, on brass and steel circular base
Category
Unknown Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Marble
Martin Visser Modernist Table TE20 Spectrum, 1987
Located in Roosendaal, Noord Brabant
Rare modernist table designed by Martin Visser and Joke van der Heyden, manufactured by ’t Spectrum Bergeyk 1988. This table is model number TE20 which ...
Category
Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Kindel Furniture Georgian Banded Mahogany Double Pedestal Extension Dining Table
Located in South Bend, IN
An exceptional Georgian or Regency style double pedestal extension dining table
By Kindel Furniture
USA, Circa 1980s
Gorgeous book-matched mahogany, with satinwood string inlaid b...
Category
American Georgian Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Brass
Midcentury Italian Travertine Coffee Table, 1980s
Located in Oud Beijerland, NL
Very nice and rare Italian coffee table, fabricated in the 1980s.
Two round plates on a very elegant base.
The plates are rounded on the edge.
This lovely table is made of ...
Category
Italian Mid-Century Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Travertine
Joan Crawford Lips Lacquered Coffee Table by Jay Spectre
By Jay Spectre
Located in Stamford, CT
Joan Crawford lips, lacquered wood coffee table designed by Jay Spectre for Jay Spectre Inc. unsigned.
Category
American Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Lacquer
Italian Vintage Marble and Brass Table, 1980s by Alexander McQueen
Located in Los Angeles, CA
Beautiful Italian side/coffee table made with brass base and black marble, beautiful shape made with 3 circular marble top.
Nothing touches, nothing clashes, which gives this piece ...
Category
Italian Mid-Century Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Marble, Brass
1980 Karl Springer Knife Edge Oval Dining Table Lacquered Goatskin
Located in Chula Vista, CA
Karl Springer Ltd 1980 cream lacquered goatskin knife edge dining table.
Dramatic double pedestal base.
28.75 H 47.25 D x 94.5 L inches
Maker label present.
Original preowned vinta...
Category
American Mid-Century Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Goatskin, Lacquer
Pedestal Table in Resin and Nickel-Plated Brass
Located in Paris, FR
Beautiful pedestal table with thick resin tray with inclusions.
Four adjustable and removable feet in nickel-plated brass.
Category
French Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Brass, Nickel
Diego Giacometti Style Large Coffee Table
By Diego Giacometti
Located in New York, NY
Amazing 1980's cast aluminum base with bronze plated large coffee table in the style of Diego Giacometti, in vintage original condition with a few light scratches to the bronze finis...
Category
American Mid-Century Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Aluminum, Bronze
Pair of Rattan Bamboo End Tables
Located in Redding, CT
Pair of Rattan Bamboo End Tables with glass tops. Nice coastal decorator style. Boho chic meets palm beach.
Category
Bohemian Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Bamboo, Rattan, Glass
Mid-Century Danish Dining Table with Glass Top
Located in Gloucestershire, GB
Elegant Mid-Century Danish dining table.
With wooden legs which can be placed in different ways and a thick glass top.
Circa 1980.
Category
Danish Mid-Century Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Glass, Wood
Italian Travertine Dining Table by Stone International
Located in Littleton, CO
This beautiful travertine pedestal dining table crafted in Italy by Stone International in 1985 exudes elegant sophistication.
The large single slab of polished travertine, with a ...
Category
Italian Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Travertine
$1,995 Sale Price
63% Off
Mario Buatta Collection John Widdicomb Chinoisserie Burlwood Center Hall Table
Located in Mexico City, MX
A 1970's burlwood tea table with chinoisserie base by American designer Mario Buatta. Manufactured by John Widdicomb as part of their Mario Buatta Collection. The dodecagonal top has...
Category
American Hollywood Regency Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Wood
Marco Zanini Zanzibar side table black
Located in Shibuya-ku, Tokyo
Zanzibar side table designed by Marco Zanini for Bieffeplast. Marco Zanini designed 12 side tables for Bieffeplast around the late 80s. This is one of 12 varietions that Bieffeplast ...
Category
Italian Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Steel
$2,200 / item
Vintage Basket Weave Coffee Table
Located in Chicago, IL
Solid oak coffee table with glass top. The table has a laced wood top in a basket weave pattern with black speckles throughout. The table i...
Category
American Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Glass, Oak
Modernist Coffee Table
Located in Los Angeles, CA
A two-tone birds eye maple coffee table with clipped corners. Finish is in a beige and medium-brown lacquer.
Category
Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Wood
$3,400
A Pair of Postmodern Travertine Pedestals. Circa 1980s
Located in Miami, FL
A Pair of Postmodern Travertine Pedestals. Circa 1980s
Feature a minimalist design and square polished travertine bases with beautiful stone grain
In excellent original condition, w...
Category
Italian Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Travertine
Rotating Top Maitland Smith Tessellated Travertine Side Tables with Brass Inlay
Located in Saint Louis, MO
If you are a fan of travertine stone tables or one who is drawn to a more neutral airy palate this pair of travertine Maitland Smith rotating top side tables with brass inlays speaks your language. Hours of Artisan hand work from top to bottom. Hand cut and hand selected travertine rectangles are hand laid to spark interest creating contrast and depth with an array of tones. The travertine tables come to life with vertical sense of uplifting light and purifying energy. The best part is the rotation and delivery. Double your table space with a chic and elegant gentle push certain to impresses any guest. Wow. Rotating travertine top easily swivels 360 degrees for a sexy and dramatic addition of usable table space. Table tops continue the movement with hand laid travertine tiles dressed with a modern brass oval embellishment. Looks and brains that seduce. Want to see more beautiful things? Scroll down below and click "View All From Seller" or favorite our shop to get your 1stDibs on our new inventory.
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Pair of Milo Baughman Style Mid Century...
Category
American Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Travertine, Brass
Neoclassical Brass Plated Coffee Table La Barge Hoof Legs
By La Barge
Located in Chula Vista, CA
For your consideration, a neoclassical brass plated coffee table. Unmarked, attributed to La Barge. Original glass with beveled edges.
Dimensions: 54 W x 23.75 D , 16.75 H
Deliver...
Category
American Neoclassical Revival Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Brass
Superb Post modern gloss lacquer tan round oval dining table with 1 leaf
Located in Brooklyn, NY
Post modern gloss lacquer tan round dining table with 1 leaf. Taupe gloss Lacquered expanding oval dining table with one leaf that seats 4-6 chairs. Has curved popsicle shaped legs. ...
Category
Italian Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Wood, Lacquer
"Vlieger" or "Kite" Table in Red Granite by Louk Straver for Castelijn
By Castelijn
Located in Los Angeles, CA
Asymmetric, Post Modern, "Vlieger" or "Kite" table, designed by Louk Staver for Castelijn, 1980's. Louk Straver, a name synonymous with innovation, created the Kite Table as a tribut...
Category
Dutch Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Granite
Pair of Ettore Sottsass Style Red Granite Side Tables with Architectural Bases
Located in Los Angeles, CA
Ettore Style red granite side tables with architectural metal bases. In original condition, with some wear to granite tops and metal bases, including chips and patina to the frames. ...
Category
American Post-Modern Vintage 1980s Tables
Materials
Granite, Metal
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