Art Deco Wrist Watches

14k Solid Gold Spike Stud Smart Watch Accessory Gold Watch Band Accessory Gift Material 14k Solid Gold, Solid Gold Theme Luxury Gross Weight 0.70 Grams Approx Type Watch Band Stud C...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Bulova Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco / "Curvex" METAL / MATERIAL: 14Kt. Solid Gold DIMENSIONS: Length 42mm X Width 21mm CIRCA: 1940's MOVEMENT / CALIBER...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Wyler Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco / Tank Style METAL / MATERIAL: Yellow Gold Filled CIRCA / YEAR: 1940's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 35mm, Lug Tip to Lug...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Longines Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Modernist METAL / MATERIAL: 18Kt Solid White Gold CIRCA / YEAR: 1950's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 36mm X Diameter 32mm MOVEM...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Waltham Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco / Original Bracelet METAL / MATERIAL: White Gold-Filled CIRCA / YEAR: 1932 DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 32mm X Width 1...

Stunning watch piece. OMEGA fully mechanical wristwatch. Platinum PT950 Case with multiple diamonds. Bracelet is genuine Omega Black leather Omeg 483 Caliber Condition: Watch winds...

Attractive and elegant Marsh Art Deco steel, gold and diamond clamper style wrist watch. Patinaed steel with applied pave diamond cloud form motifs and shoulder hilts. 14k white gold...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Forsythe Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Chronograph METAL / MATERIAL: Steel CIRCA / YEAR: 1940's / 50's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 43mm x Diameter 34mm MOVEMENT / CALIBER: Manual Winding / 17 Jewels DIAL / HANDS: Original Silvered with Luminous Arabic Numerals / Blued Steel Luminous Hands ATTACHMENT / LENGTH: Leather, 17mm / Regular Length WARRANTY: 18 months on the movement LIFETIME SERVICE COMMITMENT Forsythe was a private label house working in Switzerland from the 1940's through the 60's. They produced watches for the neighborhood jewelers in America offering high quality...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Gruen Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco METAL / MATERIAL: 10Kt Gold-Filled CIRCA / YEAR: 1940 DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 35mm X Diameter 15mm MOVEMENT / CALIB...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Gruen Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco / Tank Style METAL / MATERIAL: 14Kt Solid White Gold CIRCA / YEAR: 1920's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 32mm X Width 15m...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Howard Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco METAL / MATERIAL: Steel with Exhibition Back CIRCA / YEAR: 1921 Movement / European Case from 1980's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 55mm x Diameter 44mm MOVEMENT / CALIBER: Manual Winding / 21 Jewels DIAL / HANDS: Unique Art Nouveau Numbers...

Ladies Cartier Santos 100 Two Tone rose gold/ss !! WE HAVE EXTRA LINKS AVAILABLE!! 15 carats of collection quality diamonds watch runs perfec...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Waltham Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Round / Campaign Style METAL / MATERIAL: 14Kt Solid Yellow Gold CIRCA / YEAR: 1929 DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 38mm X Diameter 31mm MOVEMENT / CALIBER: Manual Winding / 15 Jewels / Caliber 3/0 DIAL / HANDS: Original Kiln Fired with Luminous Arabic Numerals / Original Blued Steel Luminous Hands ATTACHMENT / LENGTH: Leather, 14mm / Regular Length WARRANTY: 18 months on the movement LIFETIME SERVICE COMMITMENT Just around the corner from the global stock market crash, this watch came to be. What a great and original Waltham Watch this is. We seldom see watches from this era in such fine condition. Imagine navigating your modern day with a nearly 100 year old device (I wear a watch from 1919 every day and it always gets me there on time). This piece is fitted with a solid gold case by America's finest case maker, Depollier. They made custom cases for all the finest American watch companies, including those renowned Swiss houses imported to America. The watch is also fitted with its original and flawless Kiln Fired Enamel Dial and it still has its original Blued Steel Luminous Hands as well. Lastly, it appears to have its original crown as well. The watch keeps dependable time and can be worn all the time as well. You will likely never see another truly vintage American Watch in finer condition than this one. Through the American civil war and two World Wars, and beyond, Waltham's legacy and spirit lives on in this wonderful vintage watch. It is truly a representation of the idea of American Exceptionalism. The wonderfully crafted design is timeless. Even after 100 years or more, this watch can dependably be worn, used and counted on to get you there on time, every time. It is versatile enough to be worn for all types of occasions and various clothes. Wear it with a suit or even for more casual occasions but, certainly, feel confident that you are wearing a piece of history. The Waltham Watch Company was an American watch manufacturing house founded in 1850 in Roxbury, Massachusetts. It was the first American company to mass-produce watches using interchangeable parts. The company's watches were known for their quality and affordability, and they quickly became popular with consumers. Waltham played a major role in the development of the American watch industry as well as establishing the concept of “mass produced” products. By the way, Henry Ford was a watchmaker, and he was inspired to build cars the same way Waltham Watches were produced, for the masses with interchangeable parts. Waltham’s success helped to make the United States a major player in the global watch market as well as promote the idea of “industrialization.” Before the Waltham Watch Company, watches were generally produced by hand, in “cottage” industries. They were owned by the wealthier class or the “working class” that needed to know the time. The company's affordable watches made them accessible to a wider range of people and helped to change the way people thought about time. Prior to this, people used their local Church bells to direct them in their daily lives. The Company continued to grow and prosper throughout the 19th century. During the American Civil War, they supplied watches to the military, and of course they grew because of this association. In 1885, they moved their headquarters to Waltham, Massachusetts, and changed their name to the American Waltham Watch Company. Waltham was a major exhibitor at the 1893 World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago. The company's exhibit at the exposition was housed in a large pavilion that was designed to resemble a factory. The pavilion was filled with watches of all shapes and sizes, as well as machinery used in the manufacturing process. The exhibit was a major success, and it helped to raise the profile of Waltham watches around the world. Amongst the visitors at the exhibition was a contingent from Switzerland. When they realized what Waltham was doing, they quickly understood that their methods were outdated and soon enough they would be a country unable to compete. They also went to the Waltham factory for a visit after the exhibition. It is said that they purchased a few of Waltham’s higher grade movements. The director of factory said he would have them “adjusted” before they left, but they said, it was not necessary. When they arrived back in Switzerland, they checked them and were shocked at the level of quality and accuracy. This prompted them to buy some of the equipment that Waltham was using so they could start building better watches that were less expensive and more accurate. Some of that machinery ended up in the small town of Schaffhausen and became The International Watch Company. They are still in business today making exceptional watches. The military, for any nation, is a powerful source of revenue for industrial contracts. So, any industry would prosper during war and Waltham continued to be a supplier to the military for over 100 years. Through WW 1...

Rare Vintage Ladies Collectable Longines Movement, platinum top and 18k White Gold caseback. Natural Diamonds & Sapphires, Manual Wind Watch. It is set with 16 natural colorless di...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Rolex Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Tonneau / Reference 575 METAL / MATERIAL: Sterling Silver CIRCA / YEAR: 1920's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 36 X Width 26mm MOVE...

Circa 1940s Art Deco Hamilton "Top Hat" Wrist Watch, 38 M.M. x 22 M.M. 14k White Gold 2 piece case, Covered lugs with Ribbed Design, Caliber 725, 17 Jewel mechanical, manual wind mov...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Leroy STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco / Evening Watch METAL / MATERIAL: Platinum and Diamond DIAMONDS: VS1-SI1 Clarity / F-G color DIMENSIONS: Length 55mm X Width 16mm CIRCA: 1920's / 1930's MOVEMENT / CALIBER: Manual Winding / 17 Jewels DIAL / HANDS: Original Silvered with Kiln Fired Enamel Numbers...

Stunning watch piece. OMEGA fully mechanical wristwatch. DeVille Stainless Steel Case and Original Omega Band Condition: JUST SERVICED. Cleaned and Oiled. Details: 18mm by 25...

Behold the majesty of the Patek Philippe Rectangular Cushion 18K Yellow Gold 1950s Mechanical Men's Watch Ref. 2492, a masterpiece of horolog...

This elegant Art Deco watch is a remarkable piece for any collection. Featuring a rectangular shape, it showcases approximately 2.0 carats of mixed-cut diamonds. The diamonds are whi...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Gruen Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco Lozenge Shape METAL / MATERIAL: White Gold Filled CIRCA / YEAR: 1931 DIMENSIONS /...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Longines Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco METAL / MATERIAL: Platinum CIRCA / YEAR: 1930's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 34mm X Width 10mm MOVEMENT / CALIBER: Ma...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Rolex / Marconi STYLE / REFERENCE: Hermetic METAL / MATERIAL: Chromium CIRCA: 1930's DIMENSIONS: Length 35mm X Diameter 29mm MOVEMENT / CALIBER: Manual Winding / 15 Jewels DIAL / HANDS: Silvered with Arabic Numerals / Blued Steel Breguet Hands ATTACHMENT / LENGTH: Alligator, 16mm / Regular Length WARRANTY: 18 months on the movement. LIFETIME SERVICE COMMITMENT This very unique watch...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Tiffany and Company by Concord Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco METAL / MATERIAL: 18kt Yellow and White Gold DIMENSIONS: Length 37mm X Width 21mm CIRCA: ...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Helbros Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco / Cushion Shape METAL / MATERIAL: Yellow Gold-Filled CIRCA / YEAR: 1940's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: 37mm Length X 29mm Diameter MOVEMENT / CALIBER: Manual Winding / 17 Jewels / Caliber C101 DIAL / HANDS: Original Silvered Dial with Gilt Arabic Numeral Markers / Gilt Hands ATTACHMENT / LENGTH: Leather, 16mm / Regular Length WARRANTY: 18 months on the movement This is a "vault find" watch, it has been locked up for nearly 50 years, which means it needs a service. We will give it a factory quality service by our finest watchmaker as part of the purchase price before it is shipped out to you. This will delay shipping for a few days of course. LIFETIME SERVICE COMMITMENT This great looking watch is, called a Cushion, for its obvious shape like a pillow cushion. The original dial is in excellent condition. This great watch can be worn all the time and counted on to get you there on time as well. It is Swiss made and fully jeweled as well and will easily last a lifetime. The Helbros Watch Company was founded in 1913 in Geneva, Switzerland, by the Helbein brothers, immigrants from Russia. The company's name is a portmanteau of the Helbein brothers' last name. Helbros quickly became known for its affordable and high-quality watches. In the early 1920s, Helbros began exporting its watches to the United States. The company's watches were quickly embraced by American consumers, and Helbros became one of the leading watch brands in the United States. During World War II, Helbros produced watches for the US military. Helbros watches were known for their durability and reliability, and they were worn by soldiers on both sides of the Atlantic. After the war, Helbros continued to produce popular watches for the consumer market. The company introduced a number of innovative new watch designs, including the Chronograph, the Skin Diver...

Rolex 18K Gold/SS Datejust 36mm Olive Green Diamond Watch 2022 New 2022 box papers all original Rolex parts Olive Green Diamond roman dial 5 ye...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Movado for Tiffany & Co. STYLE / REFERENCE: Chronograph / Reference 49020 METAL / MATERIAL: 14Kt Solid Gold CIRCA / YEAR: 1930's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 37mm "Lug ...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Waltham Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco / Tank Style METAL / MATERIAL: Yellow Gold Filled CIRCA / YEAR: 1940's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 38mm "Lug Tip to L...

Antique Rolex Pocket Watch. Rolex Watch Co Railway Please refer to pictures to see the movement. Condition: Just Serviced. Cleaned and Oiled. Winds up and ticks. Second hand moves...

Bedat & Co. ladies wrist watch reference 314 No. 3 with all original parts. Tonneau-shaped 28mm case fitted with 113 round diamonds (0.95 carats). Textured sunburst guilloche dial wi...

Stunning synthetic sapphire and diamond watch with adjustable fabric band. Metal: 18K White Gold Weight: 10.6 Grams Diamond Weight: Approximately 0.30 cts Diamond Color: H Diamo...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Hamilton Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco / Cushion Shape METAL / MATERIAL: Platinum / 1.25 Cts. CIRCA / YEAR: 1940's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 51mm X Wid...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Hamilton Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco / Tonneau Shape METAL / MATERIAL: 14Kt Solid Gold CIRCA / YEAR: 1930's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 31mm X Width 16mm...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Le Coultre Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco Round METAL / MATERIAL: 18Kt Solid Gold CIRCA / YEAR: 1940's / 50's DIMENSION...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Hamilton Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco / The Adrian METAL / MATERIAL: Yellow Gold Filled CIRCA / YEAR: 1940's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 25mm X Width 37mm...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Jaeger LeCoultre STYLE / REFERENCE: Strap Model with Heavy Cord METAL / MATERIAL: 18Kt. Yellow Gold CIRCA / YEAR: 1950's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length x Diameter MOVEM...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Longines Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco Integrated Bracelet METAL / MATERIAL: 14Kt. Solid Yellow Gold DIMENSIONS: Length 36mm X Width 20mm CIRCA / YEAR: 1940's MOVEMENT / CALIBER: Manual Winding / 17 Jewels / Cal. 9L DIAL / HANDS: Original Applied Markers / Baton Hands ATTACHMENT / LENGTH: 20mm Wide Gold Bracelet 7 5/8 Length, 19cm WARRANTY: 18 months on the movement. LIFETIME SERVICE COMMITMENT This great looking Longines wrist watch...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Hamilton Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Round / Dress Style METAL / MATERIAL: 14Kt. Solid White Gold / 34 Genuine Diamonds CIRCA / YEAR: 1950's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: ...

Beaded Smart Watch Band Charm 14k Solid Gold Watches Band Accessories Gift Material Rose Gold, Solid Gold, White Gold, Yellow Gold Theme Luxu...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Zenith Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco / Tonneau / Curvex METAL / MATERIAL: 18Kt Solid Gold CIRCA / YEAR: 1930's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 41mm, Lug Tip to...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Rolex Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: 3/4 Size Precision / Oyster Speedking METAL / MATERIAL: Stainless Steel CIRCA: 1953 DIMENSIONS: Length 36mm X Diameter 30mm M...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Waltham Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco / Tank Style METAL / MATERIAL: 14Kt. Solid Yellow and White Gold / Hand Engraved CIRCA / YEAR: 1927 DIMENSIONS / ...

Rolex Daytona Black Diamond Dial Men's Watch excellent condition This watch is 100% all original Rolex Original Rolex Box & Booklets Shop With...

Of sought-after Rectangle Shape, Case measures 20mm x 38mm (including lugs) & performed in Stainless Steel Featuring stainless steel stretchable Flexible Bracelet "Elasto-Fixo" w...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Concord for Tiffany & Co. STYLE / REFERENCE: Hand Hammered / Art Deco 8 Day Travel Clock METAL / MATERIAL: Sterling Silver CIRCA ...

This exquisite Art-Deco ladies’ cocktail watch by Swiss watchmaker Haas Neveux & Cie is in unusually great condition & in excellent working order It features: Hinged Case perform...

Case Size: 17.5mm Metal Type: 18K White Gold [Hallmarked, and Tested] *Comes with original BOX and 2 extra Rolex Straps. Watch Maker: Rolex Condition: Excellent, Running.

FACTORY / HOUSE: Hamilton Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco / Evening Dress Watch METAL / MATERIAL: Platinum & 14Kt. Gold Bracelet CIRCA / YEAR: 1940's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 50mm X Diameter 14mm MOVEMENT / CALIBER: Manual Winding / 22 Jewels / Caliber 757 DIAL / HANDS: White Dial with Silver Markers / Silver Hands ATTACHMENT / LENGTH: Gold Diamond Bracelet / 5 7/8 Inches or 15cm WARRANTY: 18 months on the movement LIFETIME SERVICE COMMITMENT This great looking all original Art Deco Watch is all original and produced by the legendary American House of Hamilton. The watch has just been given a factory quality service by our finest watchmaker and keeps dependable time. We seldom see diamond dress watches in this condition. This one is very elegant and in exceptional condition with 1.75cts. of VS Diamonds. If you are looking for a spectacular watch for special evenings The wrong train, on the wrong track, at the wrong time at the end of the 19th century frequently resulted in disastrous train wrecks. In response to the critical need for accuracy on the nation’s railroads, laws were passed in 1891 establishing set standards of accuracy. All engineers and railroad workers were required to purchase and maintain their watches to keep accurate time based on set standards, about 30 seconds per week was the tolerance. This was the inspiration for The Hamilton Watch Company which was founded in 1892 in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. The company was started by a group of investors who were looking to create a high-quality, American-made watch. Hamilton quickly became a leading manufacturer of pocket watches, and by the early 1900s, the company was supplying watches to the US military. In 1917, Hamilton introduced its first wristwatch for service men entering the first World War. The wristwatch quickly became popular with both soldiers and civilians recognizing how practical they were. Hamilton continued to grow throughout the 1920s and 1930s, and by the 1940s, the company was one of the largest watchmakers in the world. Hamilton had exceptional engineers and designers and their watches were elegantly styled as well as dependable. As a watchmaker myself I consider Hamilton to be one of the worlds “best” watches. It was mass produced perfection. Even today, you can take 100 old Hamilton’s of the same model apart and shake them up in a bag and reassemble 100 watches that will work perfectly with almost no adjustment. This is an achievement. In the early 1930’s our family store in Los Angeles was the a “Hamilton” Store. Even during the depression though Hamilton did not allow you to discount the price to sell a watch. Also, in the neighborhood was another Hamilton store and one day the owner sent in a “shill” to buy a Hamilton from us. Someone gave them a slight discount. Well, that was all it took for Hamilton to “pull the line” from us. In those days the local jewelry supply houses sold you the watches and they were all told not to sell to us. We simply contacted Gruen, and they were very excited to have a new account...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Longines Watch Company for Ryrie Bros STYLE / REFERENCE: Trench Watch / Campaign Style METAL / MATERIAL: Sterling Silver CIRCA / YEAR: 1906...

FACTORY / HOUSE: A. Barthelay for Morabito STYLE / REFERENCE: Open Link Bracelet Watch METAL / MATERIAL: Sterling Silver DIMENSIONS: Length 25mm X Diameter 25mm CIRCA: 1970's / 80'...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Rolexl Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco / Reference 4554 METAL / MATERIAL: 18kt Rose Gold CIRCA / YEAR: 1940's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 37mm X Width 17mm ...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Minerva Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Chronograph METAL / MATERIAL: Stainless Steel CIRCA / YEAR: 1940's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: 45 Length...

Vintage Ladies Rose Gold (Diamond/Ruby) Pery watch - Manual winding. Rose gold ( 13 x 25 mm ). Rose gold dial with Roman numeral markers. Art deco rose gold...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Waltham Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco / Tank Style METAL / MATERIAL: Platinum CIRCA / YEAR: 1936 DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 20mm X Width 40mm MOVEMENT / ...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Waltham Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco / Tortue Shape METAL / MATERIAL: Yellow Gold Filled CIRCA / YEAR: 1940's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 34mm X Width 27mm MOVEMENT / CALIBER: Manual Winding / 17 Jewels / Caliber 1155 DIAL / HANDS: Original Gold Markers with Gold Arabic Numerals / Gold Hands ATTACHMENT / LENGTH: Leather, 16mm / Regular Length WARRANTY: 18 months on the movement LIFETIME SERVICE COMMITMENT This classic Art Deco Watch was produced by the iconic America house of Waltham, founded in the mid 1800's. They produced some of the worlds finest railroad watches...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Gruen Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco / Reference 720 METAL / MATERIAL: Yellow Gold Filled CIRCA / YEAR: 1950 DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 38mm X Width 27mm ...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Gruen Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco / Dress Watch METAL / MATERIAL: White Gold Filled CIRCA / YEAR: 1950's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 32mm X Diameter 14mm...

Circa 1920s Patek Philippe Wrist Watch, 39 M.M. Lug end to end X 29 M.M. 18K White and Yellow Gold 2 Piece Hinged Stepped case with slight Flared Lugs. Me...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Universal Geneve Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Art Deco METAL / MATERIAL: 18Kt Pink Gold CIRCA / YEAR: 1940's DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 27mm X Width 15mm MOVEMEN...

FACTORY / HOUSE: Gruen Watch Company STYLE / REFERENCE: Tonneau / Reference 387 METAL / MATERIAL: Gold-Filled CIRCA / YEAR: DIMENSIONS / SIZE: Length 38mm X Width 25mm MOVEMENT / CALIBER: Manual Winding / 17 Jewels / Caliber 426 DIAL / HANDS: Silvered Original Dial with Gilt Arabic Numeral Markers / Gilt Hands ATTACHMENT / LENGTH: Leather, 16mm / Regular Length WARRANTY: 18 months on the movement This is a "vault find" watch, it has been locked up for nearly 50 years, which means it needs a service. We will give it a factory quality service by our finest watchmaker as part of the purchase price before it is shipped out to you. This will delay shipping for a few days of course. LIFETIME SERVICE COMMITMENT This great looking Art Deco Watch was produced by legendary house of Gruen. The watch is dependable and easy to service. In the 1930's, we became Gruen agents in Los Angeles California. Gruen was a great company to work with because they had large collection, great styling, they were innovative and offered great service to their customers. It is sad that they could not, like so many other American Watch Companies withstand the Swiss and Japanese marketing. Founded in 1894 by Dietrich Gruen. The company had their American base in Cincinnati, Ohio, and it produced a wide variety of watches, including pocket watches, wristwatches, and chronographs. Gruen watches were known for their high quality and stylish designs, and they were popular...