Curtis Jeré (USA)

Though the name Curtis Jeré is familiar to many as the maker of ebullient and eccentric modern design from the 1960s and ‘70s, relatively few are aware that it is a pseudonym for the design team of Curtis Freiler and Jerry Fels. Together, the two created some of the most striking and vivid furnishings and decorative objects of their era, from sculptures and dynamically framed mirrors, to lighting and wall decorations.


     New Yorkers Freiler and Fels had collaborated for two decades on small jewelry lines before launching a design company called Artisan House in 1964. They combined variants of their names to create an artful persona — sometimes shortened to C. Jeré; the "surname" is pronounced with a rising inflection: jhayr-EH — that stood behind large-scale decorative metalwork, marked by semi-abstract petal forms with burnt and brazed edges. Fels served as head of design, and Freiler, known for his keen handiwork, was the production chief. The pair’s eclectic metalwork has captivated decorative art collectors and interior designers ever since.


     The work of Curtis Jeré displays a sense of playfulness and curiosity, while drawing on inspirations and themes that include flowers, discs, geometric forms and animal figures. Freiler and Fels had a masterful ability to work with different materials, such as patinated brass and brilliant chrome.


     The price of a Curtis Jeré mirror, lamp, wall-mounted sculpture or tabletop sculpture can range from $400 - $12,000, depending on the size, the rarity of the piece, the intricacy of the metalwork and the materials used in its construction. Other factors like condition can affect the perceived value and, thus, the cost of works by Curtis Jeré. As you will see on these pages, the imaginative powers of the designers of Curtis Jeré pieces were boundless, and their creations will add a dash of verve in any room.

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Curtis Jere Pom Pom or Sea Urchin Wall Sculpture
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Dealer Location: Los Angeles, CA
Materials & Techniques: Chrome
Curtis Jere Pom Pom or Sea Urchin Wall Sculpture
Curtis Jere
Late 20th Century American Mid-Century Modern Contemporary Art
Chrome
Elegant chrome-plated five urchin or pom pom wall sculpture signed Curtis Jere Note: Sculpture can hang in horizontal or vertical.
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Dealer Location: Los Angeles, CA
Materials & Techniques: Cut Steel, Chrome
Signed Chrome "Raindrops" Wall Sculpture by Curtis...
Curtis Jere
Early 2000s American American Modern Wall-mounted Sculptures
Cut Steel, Chrome
Iconic large Curtis Jere chrome wall-mounted raindrops sculpture in excellent condition. Signed.
Large Chrome and Brass Cityscape Style Art Piece b...
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1970s Wall-mounted Sculptures
A large three dimensional wall sculpture by Curtis Jere in chrome and brass. The folded angular panels with their highly polished finish create a myriad of reflections both of itself an...
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Dealer Location: Utrecht, NL
Materials & Techniques: Cut Steel, Chrome
C. Jere, 1971, Artisan House Vintage Raindrops Scu...
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1960s American Mid-Century Modern Wall-mounted Sculptures
Cut Steel, Chrome
Beautiful vintage polished chrome "raindrops" wall sculpture by Curtis Jeré, by Artisan House. Handmade, 1971, signed with date. Wall sculpture is made of polished and burnished chrom...
Midcentury Brass Boat Sculpture by Curtis Jere
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Dealer Location: Kingston, NY
Materials & Techniques: Brass
Midcentury Brass Boat Sculpture by Curtis Jere
Curtis Jere
Mid-20th Century American Mid-Century Modern Sculptures
Brass
A rare Jere sculpture. It is very detailed and has wonderful proportions.
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Dealer Location: Long Beach, CA
Brutalist Nail Art Wall Sculpture by Curtis Jere
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1970s Wall-mounted Sculptures
A cool nail art piece by Curtis Jere. Features numerous star shapes construed of iron nails that have been painted silver and copper, these are then layered into multiple levels creatin...
Curtis Jere Brass "Raindrops" Wall Sculpture
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Dealer Location: Los Angeles, CA
Materials & Techniques: Brass, Cut Steel
Curtis Jere Brass "Raindrops" Wall Sculpture
Curtis Jere, Artisan House
Early 2000s American American Modern Wall-mounted Sculptures
Brass, Cut Steel
Signed brass "raindrops" wall sculpture by Curtis Jere. We also have the chrome version of the sculpture as shown in the last photo.
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Dealer Location: Bedford, NY
Materials & Techniques: Metal, Carrara Marble
Very Rare Curtis Jere Brutalist Metal Side Table w...
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1980s American Brutalist Side Tables
Metal, Carrara Marble
Extremely rare Curtis Jere side table or pedestal, welded sculptural metal base with round blue/grey Carrara marble top. In original authentic vintage condition with beautiful age and p...
C. Jere Artisan House Large the Professor Owl Brutalist Metal Sculpture
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Dealer Location: Palm Springs, CA
Materials & Techniques: Metal
C. Jere Artisan House Large the Professor Owl Brut...
Curtis Jere
21st Century and Contemporary American Mid-Century Modern Sculptures
Metal
A very large metal owl sculpture The Professor style #101694 re-edition by C. Jere / Artisan House. Signed on base "C.Jere 2013" with original paper “Certificate of Authenticity”. Me...
Mid-Century Curtis Jere Crane Floor Lamp
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Dealer Location: Southampton, NJ
Materials & Techniques: Steel
Mid-Century Curtis Jere Crane Floor Lamp
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1970s American Mid-Century Modern Floor Lamps
Steel
A finely detailed functional art 'Crane' floor lamp by Curtis Jere, signed 1977. The amount of work and detail in this modern lamp is stunning! From the moving flaps around each bulb, t...
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Dealer Location: Bedford, NY
Materials & Techniques: Chrome
Curtis Jere "Trees" Floating Wall Sculpture in Chr...
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1970s American Mid-Century Modern Wall-mounted Sculptures
Chrome
Beautiful timeless "Trees" wall sculpture by C. Jere in chromed metal, 1970s. C. Jere is a metalwork artist of wall sculptures and household accessories. C. Jere works are made and ma...
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Dealer Location: Vancouver, CA
Materials & Techniques: Brass
Pair of Curtis Jere Signed Globe Wall Hangings
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1980s American Mid-Century Modern Wall-mounted Sculptures
Brass
A pair of brass globe wall hangings by Curtis Jere, indistinctly signed/dated 1982 or 1983. Very good original condition.
Large Signed Curtis Jere Polished Brass Sail Boat Sculpture
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Dealer Location: New York, NY
Materials & Techniques: Metal, Brass
Large Signed Curtis Jere Polished Brass Sail Boat ...
Curtis Jere
20th Century American Mid-Century Modern Sculptures
Metal, Brass
Outstanding Curtis Jere sculpture, signed. Newly professionally re-plated in brass. Original C. Jere label still attached. This sculpture is on display at the 1stdibs Gallery at the New...
C. Jere Chrome Floor Lamp
By Curtis Jere, C. Jere Artisan House
By Curtis Jere, C. Jere Artisan House
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Dealer Location: Los Angeles, CA
Materials & Techniques: Chrome
C. Jere Chrome Floor Lamp
Curtis Jere, C. Jere Artisan House
Vintage 1970s Mid-Century Modern Floor Lamps
Chrome
A Curtis Jere chrome floor lamp, signed on the base and the shade.
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Dealer Location: Chicago, IL
Materials & Techniques: Metal, Stainless Steel, Chrome
Monumental Chrome Abstract Curtis Jere Kinetic Scu...
Curtis Jere, Artisan House
1990s American Mid-Century Modern Sculptures
Metal, Stainless Steel, Chrome
An important and rare over six foot tall signed Curtis Jere, 1994 abstract sculpture. Composed of two intertwined chrome ribbons mounted on a 30 inch tall black cylindrical metal base...
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Dealer Location: New York, NY
Materials & Techniques: Brass
Grand "Nest" Light Sculpture Flush Chandeliers, Mi...
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1960s American Mid-Century Modern Flush Mount
Brass
A wonderful thirteen-light brass three-tier flush mounted light sculpture composed of golden aged brass and enameled steel rods. Restored. Rewired. We can drop it on an extended ceiling...
Curtis Jere Brushed Metal Standing Lamp, USA
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Dealer Location: Miami, FL
Materials & Techniques: Metal, Wood
Curtis Jere Brushed Metal Standing Lamp, USA
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1970s American Floor Lamps
Metal, Wood
The geometric metal stacked sections on an ebonized base.
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Dealer Location: Lambertville, NJ
Materials & Techniques: Stainless Steel, Chrome
Mid Century Curtis Jere Polished Stainless Steel T...
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1970s Mid-Century Modern Table Lamps
Stainless Steel, Chrome
Monumental Mid-Century Modern chrome table lamp by Curtis Jere featuring a polished stainless steel base and rectangular shade. Beautiful condition. Signed on base. Original wiring in w...
Tree Wall Sculpture by Curtis Jere
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Dealer Location: Dallas, TX
Tree Wall Sculpture by Curtis Jere
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1970s American American Modern Wall-mounted Sculptures
Signed: c jere; wall-mounted sculpture of a tree in copper.
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Dealer Location: Philadelphia, PA
Materials & Techniques: Stainless Steel, Iron
Curtis Jere Floor Sculpture in Lighting Bolt Motiv...
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1970s American Mid-Century Modern Sculptures
Stainless Steel, Iron
Curtis Jere monumental floor sculpture of lightning bolt of stainless steel on cast base. Measure: Total height is 66.5 inches with the cast base 31 high by 10 inches in diameter.
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Dealer Location: Saint Petersburg, FL
Materials & Techniques: Brass
Curtis C. Jere Brass Peacock Bird of Paradise Wall...
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1980s American Mid-Century Modern Wall-mounted Sculptures
Brass
This Hollywood Regency brass peacock bird of paradise by American designer Curtis Jere is breath-taking, even more so in person. The photos simply do not do it justice; you will certain...
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Dealer Location: Los Angeles, CA
Materials & Techniques: Steel, Chrome
Sculptural 1970s Chrome Table Lamp by Curtis Jere,...
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1970s American Brutalist Table Lamps
Steel, Chrome
Sculptural 1970s chrome table lamp by Curtis Jere. Signed C. Jere 76 inside the shade.
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Dealer Location: Palm Springs, CA
Materials & Techniques: Brass
Large Brass Ship Sculpture by Curtis Jeré
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1970s American Mid-Century Modern Sculptures
Brass
A 1976 large brass ship sculpture by Curtis Jeré. The sculpture is in original condition. So it shows some age, it's signed and dated. The sculpture can be mounted on the wall if desire...
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Dealer Location: South Charleston, WV
Materials & Techniques: Brass, Steel
Large Whimsical Music Theme Tunes Wall Sculpture b...
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1980s American Mid-Century Modern Wall-mounted Sculptures
Brass, Steel
From the artisan studios of Curtis Jere (C. Jere) comes this large wall sculpture featuring a musical sheet note interpretation. This was produced in three sizes, this one being the lar...
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Dealer Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Materials & Techniques: Stainless Steel
Curtis Jere Wall Mount Can Opener Sculpture in Sta...
Curtis Jere
Late 20th Century American Modern Wall-mounted Sculptures
Stainless Steel
This large-scale wall Curtis Jere wall sculpture of a cork-screw, can opener was created sometime in late 1960s to the late 1970s and is fabricated in stainless steel.  
Curtis Jere Brass Sculpture on Unusual Wooden Base-Saturday Sale
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Dealer Location: Houston, TX
Curtis Jere Brass Sculpture on Unusual Wooden Base...
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1970s American Mid-Century Modern Sculptures
Signed Curtis Jere Windswept brass sculpture on an unusual wooden base. This kinetic sculpture rotates to other positions. Base dimensions: 11 inches wide 6.13 inches deep.     ...
Curtis Jere Designed Modernist Mirror
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Dealer Location: New York, NY
Curtis Jere Designed Modernist Mirror
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1970s American Modern Wall Mirrors
A Curtis Jere designed modernist mirror with four layers of scalloped metal profiles. Signed: C. Jere.
Curtis Jere Raindrops Wall Sculpture
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Dealer Location: Los Angeles, CA
Curtis Jere Raindrops Wall Sculpture
Curtis Jere
21st Century and Contemporary Mid-Century Modern Contemporary Art
Curtis Jere raindrops wall sculpture signed. Produced early 2000 by Artisan House.
Metal Boat Wall Sculpture by Curtis Jere, USA Sign...
Curtis Jere
Late 20th Century Wall-mounted Sculptures
A metal boat wall sculpture by Curtis Jere, USA signed and dated 1977 Price includes 10% VAT which is removed for items shipped outside the EU.
Curtis Jere Designed Modernist Mirror
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Dealer Location: New York, NY
Materials & Techniques: Brass
Curtis Jere Designed Modernist Mirror
Curtis Jere
Late 20th Century American Wall Mirrors
Brass
A Curtis Jere designed modernist mirror.
Illuminated Curtis Jere Sculptural Tree
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Dealer Location: Bronx, NY
Illuminated Curtis Jere Sculptural Tree
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1960s American Mid-Century Modern Sculptures
Illuminated C Jere sculptural tree, reduced as a gift for the holidays, please see our collection of gifts at sjulian.1stdibs.
Curtis Jere Dimensional Horse Wall Plaque
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Dealer Location: Hamilton, CA
Curtis Jere Dimensional Horse Wall Plaque
Curtis Jere
20th Century American Decorative Art
Curtis Jere dimensional horse wall plaque.
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Dealer Location: Brooklyn, NY
Materials & Techniques: Metal, Brass, Steel, Chrome
Mixed Metal Curtis Jere Elongated 'Urchin' Wall Sc...
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1980s American Brutalist Sculptures
Metal, Brass, Steel, Chrome
This uncommon Jere sculpture is comprised of chromed steel 'spores' that together form an urchin or pom-pom figure at the top. A combination of brass and chromed steel rods with steel b...
Kinetic Wall Sculpture by Curtis Jere
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Dealer Location: New York, NY
Kinetic Wall Sculpture by Curtis Jere
Curtis Jere
Mid-20th Century American Mid-Century Modern Wall-mounted Sculptures
Rare Curtis Jere Kinetic wall sculpture with a combination of flat and faceted brass elements suspended within a diamond shaped frame. The brass elements have movement and give a showy ...
Curtis Jere 'Windswept' Brass Sculpture
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Dealer Location: New York, NY
Materials & Techniques: Brass, Marble
Curtis Jere 'Windswept' Brass Sculpture
Curtis Jere
20th Century American Mid-Century Modern Sculptures
Brass, Marble
Curtis Jere 'windswept' brass sculpture.
Brass Table Lamp by C. Jere, Signed
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Dealer Location: Charlottesville, VA
Brass Table Lamp by C. Jere, Signed
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1970s American Modern Table Lamps
Chic brass table lamp by C. Jere. Signed and dated 1977. Sells and ships with the original brass shade of pyramid form. Global shipping available. Please contact us with any quest...
Curtis Jere Brass Flock of Seagulls Bird Wall Sculpture‏
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Dealer Location: San Diego, CA
Materials & Techniques: Brass
Curtis Jere Brass Flock of Seagulls Bird Wall Scul...
Curtis Jere, Artisan House
20th Century American Mid-Century Modern Wall-mounted Sculptures
Brass
Beautiful flock of seagulls, by Curtis Jere for Artisan House, with black enameled frame and solid brass birds.
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Dealer Location: New York, NY
C. Jere Mirror Sunburst Bronze Brass Signed USA 19...
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1960s American Modern Wall Mirrors
C. Jere mirror sunburst bronze brass signed USA 1960s. Small scale sunburst mirror with bronze rebar form arms. Original felt on verso. Signed in black marker on edge of the brass exter...
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Dealer Location: Tulsa, OK
Materials & Techniques: Metal, Wood
Silver Curtis Jere Silver Raindrops Tree Sculpture...
Curtis Jere
Late 20th Century American Modern Sculptures
Metal, Wood
This is an original Curtis Jere 78" tree sculpture, from the 1970s era. It is tall. This one has leaves in burnished silver, instead of the brass that you typically see. The metal branc...
Curtis Jere Bicycle Tabletop or Wall Sculpture
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Dealer Location: New York, NY
Materials & Techniques: Brass
Curtis Jere Bicycle Tabletop or Wall Sculpture
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1980s American Mid-Century Modern Wall-mounted Sculptures
Brass
Charming sculpture by Curtis Jere that is new old stock. The original tag is available and dated 1983. It is a versatile piece and can Stand on a small mount or hang on the wall. Please...
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Dealer Location: London, GB
Materials & Techniques: Brass, Copper
Curtis Jere "Raindrops" Wall Sculpture, Last Quart...
Curtis Jere
Late 20th Century American Wall-mounted Sculptures
Brass, Copper
Raindrops wall sculpture designed by Curtis Jere for Artisan House, brass, copper, signed '© C Jeré', last quarter of the 20th century. Measures: H 76 cm x W 163 cm x D 23 cm.
Curtis Jere Circular Starburst Wall Sculpture
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Dealer Location: Hopewell, NJ
Materials & Techniques: Brass
Curtis Jere Circular Starburst Wall Sculpture
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1980s American Mid-Century Modern Wall-mounted Sculptures
Brass
Large sculptural brass sunburst wall sculpture with undulating fan like ripples, signed and dated by world renown artist Curtis Jere. Two semi circular pieces can be hung separately or ...
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Dealer Location: Topeka, KS
Materials & Techniques: Metal, Quartz
C. Jere Sculpture Pair of Birds in Flight on Quart...
Curtis Jere
Late 20th Century American Mid-Century Modern Sculptures
Metal, Quartz
Fabulous Curtis Jere sculpture depicting a pair of birds in flight is mounted on a natural quartz base. Signed C. Jere and in wonderful vintage condition, circa 1970s. This beautiful...
Pair of Aluminium Birds on a Stand Attributed to C...
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1970s American Sculptures
A pair of aluminium birds on a stand attributed to Curtis Jere mounted on a marble base. NB: These items are subject to a further discount over and above the trade when exported outs...
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Dealer Location: San Diego, CA
Materials & Techniques: Bronze, Marble
Free-Form Ribbon Sculpture in Bronze on Marble Bas...
Curtis Jere, Artisan House
Late 20th Century American Mid-Century Modern Sculptures
Bronze, Marble
Wonderful and unique free-form ribbon abstract sculpture signed by C. Jere for Artisan House, circa 1981. The piece represents a flowing free-form bronze ribbon which is mounted on a 5"...
C. Jere Chrome Tower Lamp, 1970s
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Dealer Location: San Francisco, CA
Materials & Techniques: Metal, Wood
C. Jere Chrome Tower Lamp, 1970s
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1970s American Mid-Century Modern More Lighting
Metal, Wood
This vintage Mid-Century sculptural table lamp is composed of interlocking chrome bands. Black wood base with the brass C. Jere signature plate on the back. Uses two light bulbs.
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Dealer Location: Buffalo, NY
Materials & Techniques: Brass, Copper, Stainless Steel
Large Tri-Color "Spray" Hanging Wall Sculpture by ...
Curtis Jere, Harry Bertoia
20th Century American Mid-Century Modern Wall-mounted Sculptures
Brass, Copper, Stainless Steel
Large .30 inches in diameter tri-color "Spray" hanging wall sculpture by Curtis Jere after Bertoia. Classic Modernist design, made from copper, brass and steel welded rods, stunning.
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Dealer Location: London, GB
Materials & Techniques: Metal
Large Curtis Jere Musical Note Wall Sculpture 1988...
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1980s American Contemporary Art
Metal
A large Curtis Jere musical note metal wall sculpture, 1988 signed NB: These items are subject to a further discount over and above the trade when exported outside the EU of 10%.
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Dealer Location: New York, NY
Materials & Techniques: Steel
C. Jere Chandelier Nickel Chrome Cubist, USA, 1970...
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1970s American Modern Chandeliers and Pendants
Steel
C. Jere chandelier chrome Cubist, USA, 1970s Iconic nickel-plated cubist form chandelier by C. Jere for Artisan House of California. In very clean original condition. Rewired with cust...
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Dealer Location: Atlanta, GA
Materials & Techniques: Brass, Copper, Steel
Autumn Leaves Mirror Signed by Jere, Copper, Brass...
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1960s Wall Mirrors
Brass, Copper, Steel
Autumn leaves mirror signed by Jere, copper, brass and steel, circa 1960s.
Ship Wall Sculpture by Curtis Jere
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Dealer Location: Fulton, CA
Materials & Techniques: Brass, Copper
Ship Wall Sculpture by Curtis Jere
Curtis Jere
Mid-20th Century American Brutalist Wall-mounted Sculptures
Brass, Copper
Metal wall sculpture of a sailing ship by Curtis Jere. Made of copper and brass. Clearly signed and dated 1971.     
Vintage Midcentury 'Birds in Flight' C. Jere Sculpture
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Dealer Location: San Jose, CA
Materials & Techniques: Iron
Vintage Midcentury 'Birds in Flight' C. Jere Sculp...
Curtis Jere, Artisan House
Vintage 1960s American Mid-Century Modern Sculptures
Iron
Original Curtis Jere 'Birds in Flight' sculpture for artisan house in black iron. This iconic piece is signed and has age related patina.
Curtis Jere Flower
By Curtis Jere
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Dealer Location: Culver City, CA
Materials & Techniques: Brass
Curtis Jere Flower
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1960s American Mid-Century Modern Decorative Art
Brass
The flower is enameled in orange and yellow and the leaves are patinated in green. It is signed C. Jere and dated 1967. This is a perfect gift.
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Dealer Location: Bronx, NY
Signed Curtis Jere Brazed Wall Sculpture
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1970s American Mid-Century Modern Wall-mounted Sculptures
C Jere three dimensional regatta sculpture in motion, with curled flag as if to show turbulent winds.
Maple Leaf Wall Sculpture by Curtis Jere
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Dealer Location: Fulton, CA
Materials & Techniques: Brass, Copper
Maple Leaf Wall Sculpture by Curtis Jere
Curtis Jere
Mid-20th Century American Brutalist Wall-mounted Sculptures
Brass, Copper
Signed Curtis Jere brutalist, torch cut, wall sculpture of a tree branch with maple leaves. Clearly signed and dated 1971. Can be hung vertically or horizontally.
Curtis Jere Wall Sculpture
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Dealer Location: Chicago, IL
Curtis Jere Wall Sculpture
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1970s American Mid-Century Modern Wall-mounted Sculptures
Patinated steel and brass metal wall sculpture by Curtis Jere. This piece is signed by the artist.
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Dealer Location: Miami, FL
Large C. Jere Willow Tree Sculpture
Curtis Jere
Vintage 1980s American Mid-Century Modern Sculptures
Beautifully created and dramatically deco this stylized tree sculpture by C. Jere signed and dated 1984. With a marble base, the sculpture rises with a curling brass reeded trunk that o...
Curtis Jere Chrome Rain Drop Wall Sculpture
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Dealer Location: Cincinnati, OH
Curtis Jere Chrome Rain Drop Wall Sculpture
Curtis Jere
Late 20th Century American Modern Wall-mounted Sculptures
A chromed wall sculpture with torch cut and brazed edge circles, chrome circles and domed rain drop like pieces intermingled for a unique and interesting look, one of their best and mos...