2002 Hermès Birkin 30 grape
By Hermès
Located in Paris, FR
Beautiful Hermès Birkin 30 in grape Epsom leather delivered in its original Hermès dustbag
2002 Hermès Birkin 30 grape
By Hermès
Located in Paris, FR
Beautiful Hermès Birkin 30 in grape Epsom leather delivered in its original Hermès dustbag
HERMÉS EVELYNE GM Shoulder Bag, Clemens Leather blue jeans, F in square 2002
By Hermès
Located in Stuttgart, DE
Hermès Evelyne Shoulder bag, (Made in France) Clemens Leather blue jeans "F" in square - 2002
Stunning & Rare Hermes 2002 shoulder bag in Gold Evercolor leather, SHW
By Hermès
Located in Paris, IDF
Rare Hermès 2002 shoulder bag in Gold Evercolor leather, palladium silver
New Rare Hermes 2002 shoulder bag in Ambre Yellow Alligator leather, SHW
By Hermès
Located in Paris, IDF
Amazing Hermès 2002 shoulder bag in Jaune ambre Mississippiensis Alligator
2002 Hermes Purple Box Calf Leather Jige Clutch
By Hermès
Located in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire
"HERMES Purple Box Calf Leather Jige Clutch This HERMES Jige is in Excellent Pre-Owned
2002 Hermes Gold Ostrich Leather Plume 28
By Hermès
Located in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire
"HERMÈS Gold Ostrich Leather Plume 28 Reference: HB2654 Serial Number: [F] Age (Circa): 2002
2002 Hermes Blue Jean Fjord Leather Birkin 35cm
By Hermès
Located in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire
Condition accompanied by Hermes Dust Bag, Lock, Keys, Clochette. Circa 2002. Primarily made from Fjord
2002 Hermes Orange Dalmation Buffalo Leather Birkin 35cm
By Hermès
Located in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire
(Circa): 2002 Accompanied By: Hermès Dust Bag, Lock, Keys, Clochette Authenticity Details: Date Stamp
2002 Hermes Blue Jean Fjord Leather Birkin 35cm
By Hermès
Located in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire
HERMÈS Blue Jean Fjord Leather Birkin 35cm Reference: HB1272 Serial Number: [F] Age (Circa): 2002
Vintage Hermes 2002 Birkin 35 Clemence Cacao GHW Bag
By Hermès
Located in Jakarta, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta
rubbing on the corners. Comes with dust bag and its tools. Stamp square F from 2002.
Hermes 2002 Burgundy Alligator Zip Around Agenda
By Hermès
Located in New York, NY
Hermes 2002 Burgundy Alligator Zip Around GM Agenda Features three interior card holders, a
2002 Hermes Rouge H Evergrain Leather Kelly 32cm Retourne
By Hermès
Located in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire
HERMÈS Rouge H Evergrain Leather Kelly 32cm Retourne This HERMÈS Kelly 32cm is in Excellent Pre
2002 Hermes Black Box Calf Leather Kelly 32cm Sellier
By Hermès
Located in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire
Condition accompanied by Hermès Dust Bag, Shoulder Strap. Circa 2002. Primarily made from Box Calf Leather
2002 Hermes Orange Dalmatian Buffalo Leather Evelyne I PM
By Hermès
Located in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire
HERMÈS Orange Dalmatian Buffalo Leather Evelyne I PM Reference: HB1593 Serial Number: [F] Age
2002 Hermès Black Chevre de Coromandel Leather Kelly 35cm Sellier
By Hermès
Located in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire
: [F] Age (Circa): 2002 Accompanied By: Hermès Dust Bag, Lock, Keys, Clochette, Shoulder Strap
Hermes Vintage 1972 Rare Brown Leather 2002 Shoulder Bag
By Hermès
Located in Rome, Rome
piece of fashion history, this Vintage Hermès 2002 Shoulder Bag perfectly captures the sleek
HERMES "Evelyne I" 2002 Havane Clemence Leather Perforated Logo Shoulder Bag PM
By Hermès
Located in Thiensville, WI
HERMES "Evelyne I" 2002 Havane Clemence Leather Perforated Logo Shoulder Bag PM Brand
Hermes Kelly 32 Sellier Gold Epsom Leather Gold HW Double Ring 2002
By Hermès
Located in AUBERVILLIERS, FR
, ends of the handle, outside Hermes spa DETAILS Brand: Hermes Kelly Stamp: Box F Year of manufacture
Hermes Black Togo 35 cm Birkin with Box, Duster, Rainpouch - GHW - 2002
By Hermès
Located in West Palm Beach, FL
Hermes Black Togo 35 cm Birkin with Box, Duster, Rainpouch - GHW - 2002. This bag is in good
HERMES Chevre Leather Rouge H 32cm HAC Birkin Bag W. Gold Hardware 2002
By Hermès
Located in New York, NY
HERMES Chevre Leather Rouge H 32cm HAC Birkin Bag W. Gold Hardware 2002 Age: 2002 Made in France
Hermes 2002 Zip Around Globe Trotter PM Agenda Cover/Wallet with Sterling Pen
By Hermès
Located in West Palm Beach, FL
Hermes vintage zip around Globe Trotter PM Agenda Cover/Wallet with Sterling silver Pen from 2002
2002 Hermes Black Togo Leather Birkin 30cm
By Hermès
Located in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire
accompanied by Hermes Dust Bag, Box, Lock, Keys, Clochette. Circa 2002. Primarily made from Togo Leather
Hermès Gris Perle Evercolor 2002 20 PHW
By Hermès
Located in New York, NY
Listing Title: Hermès Gris Perle Evercolor 2002 20 PHW SKU: 119785 Condition: Pre-owned (3000
Hermes Brown Trim II 31 2002 Bag
By Hermès
Located in New York, NY
Product Details: Brown Hermes Trim II 31 2002 Bag. The Trim II Bag features a leather body, gold
2002 Hermès Rouge H Box Calf Leather Vibrato Birkin 35cm
By Hermès
Located in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire
HERMÈS Rouge H Box Calf Leather Vibrato Birkin 35cm Xupes Reference: HB2967 Serial Number: [F] Age
Hermes Vintage 1972 Rare Brown Leather 2002 Shoulder Bag
By Hermès
Located in Rome, Rome
piece of fashion history, this Vintage Hermès 2002 Shoulder Bag perfectly captures the sleek
2002 Hermes Vert Anis Chevre Mysore Leather Bearn Wallet
By Hermès
Located in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire
HERMES Vert Anis Chevre Mysore Leather Bearn Wallet This HERMÈS Bearn Wallet is in Very Good Pre
2002 Hermes 35cm Orange H Clemence Leather Trim Bag w/Palladium Hardware
By Hermès
Located in Studio City, CA
A 2002 Hermes 35cm orange H "Clemence" leather trim bag with palladium hardware. The bag features a
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Size: 20 W x 19 H x 5 D cm
1stdibs Exclusive Hermès Limited Edition 2002 20cm Lime ''Sieste Au Paradis"
By Hermès
Located in Sydney, New South Wales
1stdibs Exclusives From Three Over Six Brand: Hermès Style: 2002 "Limited Edition - ''Sieste Au
HERMES 2002 Rouge H Chevre Leather Envelope Passport Holder
By Hermès
Located in New York, NY
HERMES 2002 Rouge H Chevre Leather Envelope Passport Holder Made in: France Year of
Unused 2002 Hermès Gold Caramel Tan Sac a Depeche 41 Briefcase 24k GHW 68136
By Hermès
Located in Costa Mesa, CA
Store item: 68136 The Sac à Dépeche was first introduced by Hermès in 1937, one of its first
HERMES Birkin 40cm Black Togo Leather Handbag from 2002
By Hermès
Located in Holland, PA
This Hermes Black Togo Leather Birkin Bag is 40cm in size with golden hardware. The front clasp is
Hermes 35cm Brown Ardennes Birkin Handbag, Year 2002
By Hermès
Located in Holland, PA
AUTHENTIC GREAT CONDITION HERMES 35CM BROWN ARDENNES BIRKIN HANDBAG, YEAR 2002 Comes with
Hermes 35cm Raisin Swift Birkin Handbag, Year 2002
By Hermès
Located in Holland, PA
*Please note, color may not be fully representative of handbag based on monitor and lighting. This
Hermes 35cm Blue Jean Togo Birkin Handbag, Year 2002
By Hermès
Located in Holland, PA
AUTHENTIC GREAT CONDITION HERMES 35CM BLUE JEAN TOGO BIRKIN HANDBAG, YEAR 2002 *Please note
Hermes Blue Jean Togo Leather 32cm Kelly Handbag, 2002
By Hermès
Located in Los Angeles, CA
Kelly bag by Hermes from 2002 32cm size Togo leather in blue jean color Silver palladium hardware
Hermes 2002 Gao Bag Blue Togo Leather Hobo Style Handbag
By Hermès
Located in Portland, OR
This gorgeous vintage 2002 Hermes Gao bag is in our favorite shade of blue and comes from a client
Hermes 2002 Shoulder Bag Evercolor 20
By Hermès
Located in NY, NY
This Hermes 2002 Shoulder Bag Evercolor 20, crafted in Noir black Evercolor leather, features a
Hermes 2002 Shoulder Bag Evercolor 20
By Hermès
Located in NY, NY
This Hermes 2002 Shoulder Bag Evercolor 20, crafted in Gold brown evercolor leather, features a
Hermes 2002 Shoulder Bag Evercolor 20
By Hermès
Located in NY, NY
This Hermes 2002 Shoulder Bag Evercolor 20, crafted in Gold brown evercolor leather, features a
Hermes 2002 Shoulder Bag Evercolor 20
By Hermès
Located in NY, NY
: Height 7.5", Width 8", Depth 2", Strap Drop 19" Designer: Hermes Model: 2002 Shoulder Bag Evercolor 20
Hermes 2002 Shoulder Bag Evercolor 26
By Hermès
Located in NY, NY
Measurements: Height 10", Width 10", Depth 3" Designer: Hermes Model: 2002 Shoulder Bag Evercolor 26 Exterior
Hermes 2002 Shoulder Bag Evercolor 26
By Hermès
Located in NY, NY
Measurements: Height 10", Width 10", Depth 3" Designer: Hermes Model: 2002 Shoulder Bag Evercolor 26 Exterior
Hermes 2002 Shoulder Bag Evercolor 20
By Hermès
Located in NY, NY
" Designer: Hermes Model: 2002 Shoulder Bag Evercolor 20 Exterior Material: Leather Exterior Color: Brown
Hermes 2002 Shoulder Bag Evercolor 20
By Hermès
Located in NY, NY
Drop 19" Designer: Hermes Model: 2002 Shoulder Bag Evercolor 20 Exterior Material: Leather Exterior
Hermes 2002 Shoulder Bag Evercolor 20
By Hermès
Located in NY, NY
Measurements: Height 8", Width 8", Depth 1.5", Strap Drop 14-18" Designer: Hermes Model: 2002 Shoulder Bag
Hermes 2002 Shoulder Bag Evergrain 20
By Hermès
Located in NY, NY
. Accessories: Dust Bag Measurements: Height 8", Width 8", Depth 1.5", Strap Drop 14-18" Designer: Hermes Model
Hermes 2002 Shoulder Bag Evergrain 20
By Hermès
Located in NY, NY
. Accessories: Dust Bag Measurements: Height 8", Width 8", Depth 1.5", Strap Drop 14-18" Designer: Hermes Model
Hermes Birkin - Red Buffalo - 2002 - Rare
By Hermès
Located in Boca Raton, FL
Presented here is a magnificent Hermes Birkin bag in red buffalo. The bag is a size 35 and is in
Hermes Beton Evercolor Leather 2002 Wallet
By Hermès
Located in Dubai, Al Qouz 2
This designer wallet is an immaculate balance of sophistication and rational utility. It has been designed using prime quality materials and elevated by a sleek finish. The creation ...
Hermes Gold Evercolor Leather Gold Plated 2002 - 20 Bag
By Hermès
Located in Dubai, Al Qouz 2
The Hermes 2002 - 20 bag shares a resemblance with the iconic Constance. Carrying a structured
Hermes 1974 Vintage "2002" Bag in Black Croco
By Hermès
Located in Paris, FR
Vintage Hermes 2002 bag in black crocodile with shoulder or corssbody strap ( for a medium/ small
Hermes Birkin 35 cm Sienne Veau Epson , 2002
By Hermès
Located in New York, NY
Hermes Birkin 35 cm Sienne Veau Epson Bag . Good Condition .F Square year from 2002 . Some Minor
Hermes Magnolia Evercolor Leather Palladium Finish 2002 - 20 Bag
By Hermès
Located in Dubai, Al Qouz 2
Ensure your day's essentials are in order and your outfit is complete with this Hermes bag. Crafted
Hermes Magnolia Evercolor Leather Palladium Finish 2002 - 20 Bag
By Hermès
Located in Dubai, Al Qouz 2
Ensure your day's essentials are in order and your outfit is complete with this Hermes bag. Crafted
HERMES Evelyne GM Mustard Yellow Clemence GHW Shoulder Bag, 2002
By Hermès
Located in Holland, PA
HERMES EVELYNE GM MUSTARD YELLOW CLEMENCE GHW SHOULDER BAG, 2002 This bag is in EXCELLENT
Hermes Evelyne GM orange Clemence leather SHW shoulder bag, 2002
By Hermès, Evelyne GM
Located in Holland, PA
HERMES EVELYNE GM ORANGE CLEMENCE LEATHER SHW SHOULDER BAG, 2002 Please note, color can vary
Hermes Evelyne GM Parchmein Clemence leather SHW shoulder bag, 2002
By Hermès, Evelyne GM
Located in Holland, PA
HERMES EVELYNE GM PARCHMEIN CLEMENCE LEATHER SHW SHOULDER BAG, 2002 This bag is in excellent
Hermes Magnolia Evercolor Leather Palladium Finish 2002 - 20 Bag
By Hermès
Located in Dubai, Al Qouz 2
Ensure your day's essentials are in order and your outfit is complete with this Hermes bag. Crafted
Incredible Vintage Giorgio di Sant Angelo 80s White Fully Beaded Bodycon Dress
By Giorgio di Sant' Angelo
Located in San Diego, CA
Incredible, sexy, and timeless vintage 1980s Giorgio di Sant Angelo white beaded dress! Encrusted with thousands of seed beads, rhinestones, etc...The detail on this sexy little numb...
Luca Luca 1990s Terra Cotta Tan Sz 8 / 10 Virgin Wool Italian Vintage 90s Dress
By LUCA LUCA
Located in San Diego, CA
Chic and classic never worn 1990s LUCA LUCA terra-cotta virgin wool sleeveless sheath dress! The perfect alternative to the little black dress, this gem offers so much versatility. F...
John Galliano for Christian Dior Pink Silk Flower Dress
By John Galliano, Christian Dior
Located in Water Mill, NY
A beautiful blush pink silk dress with green and bright pink flowers by John Galliano for Christian Dior. It has ruched straps forming a front V, the skirt falls in gentle folds to ...
Hermes Evelyne 29 Large Crossbody Bag Grey with Strap
By Hermès
Located in AUBERVILLIERS, FR
Hermes Evelyne 29 Large Crossbody Bag Grey with Strap These are professional photos of the actual bag offered by Luxbags. The Hermes Evelyne 29 Large Crossbody Bag offers a minimal...
Tom Ford for Gucci F/W 2003 Over-the-Knee Stretch Leather Studded Boots 7.5/37.5
By Tom Ford
Located in Montgomery, TX
Tom Ford for Gucci Over-the-Knee Leather Boots Designer size - 7 1/2 ( European size 37.5 ) F/W 2003 Collection Black leather Gucci pointed-toe over-the-knee boots with gold-tone stu...
Rare Hermès Vintage Black Leather Sac 404 Top Handle Doctor's Bag
By Hermès
Located in Studio City, CA
Vintage Hermes Sac 404 in black box calf leather with gold-plated metal hardware, top handle, push-lock top closure and key (attached to handle and housed in a leather clochette.). T...
1990S GIANNI VERSACE Lilac Silk Chiffon & Crystal Metal Mesh Cocktail Dress Wit
By Gianni Versace
Located in New York, NY
1990S GIANNI VERSACE Lilac Silk Chiffon & Crystal Metal Mesh Cocktail Dress With Full Side Slits
Tom Ford for Yves Saint Laurent F/W 2002 Top Blouse with Tom Ford Peplum Belt M
By Tom Ford for Yves Saint Laurent, Yves Saint Laurent Rive Gauche
Located in Montgomery, TX
Tom Ford for Yves Saint Laurent Rive Gauche Black Top Blouse + Tom Ford Leather Belt F/W 2002 Collection Ready to Wear Designer size - M ( will fit bigger sizes also - please check m...
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Size: FR 40 US 8
CHRISTIAN DIOR Black 3D Crochet Knit Ribbed Dress with Ruches Dior Logo Plate 40
By Christian Dior
Located in Switzerland, CH
An extremely luxurious and versatile CHRISTIAN DIOR classic signature piece that will last you for years Gorgeous, almost couture-like piece hand-crafted by the seamstresses ...
Prada Fairy Collection Pink Print Silk Dress, 2008
By Prada
Located in Boca Raton, FL
Italian luxury brand Prada has made a mark with their refined styles and classic reinventions. However, the namesake designer Miuccia Prada is no stranger to considering creative twi...
New Gucci Mink Suede Heels Pumps Size 9
By Gucci
Located in Conroe, TX
Gucci Mink Suede Heels Brand New Leather Insole MINK GUCCI GG TASSELS U.S. Size: 9 Black Suede Gold Hardware with GG Logo 4" Heel With Box & Extra Heel Tips
New Tom Ford for Gucci F/W 2003 Silk Black Corset Belt Cocktail Dress It.38
By Tom Ford for Gucci, Gucci
Located in Montgomery, TX
New Tom Ford for Gucci Black Silk Corset Belt Cocktail Dress F/W 2003 Collection Italian size -38 Stretch Silk, Detachable Corset Belt, Back Zip Closure. Made in Italy. New without tag.
Prada Taupe silk organza fairy pant suit, ss 2008
By Prada
Located in London, GB
Prada; Taupe silk organza pant suit with printed illustrations by James Jean. Loosely cut transparent blouse with black ribbon trim, choker, fabric button fastenings and caplet. Slim...
PIERRE BALMAIN Haute Couture c.1964 Black Crystal Beaded Mink Fur Cropped Jacket
By Pierre Balmain Couture
Located in Thiensville, WI
PIERRE BALMAIN Haute Couture Black Crystal Beaded Mink Fur Ball Cropped Jacket Brand / Manufacturer: Pierre Balmain (Attributed) Designer: Pierre Balmain Collection: c.1964 Style: C...
Hermès Evelyne 16 Gold Clemence BNIB
By Hermès
Located in West Hollywood, CA
Hermès Evelyne 16 featuring amazone taurillon clemence leather. It comes with palladium silver hardware and has a shoulder strap made of fabric with a zick zack pattern. The bag is b...
Gianni Versace Couture Floral \Dress 2002 Fit and flare
By Versace
Located in Wallkill, NY
Details, Details on this Fabulous Gianni Versace Dress. Each side features a slit with Brass buttons, some are faux and others are usable. The sleeves as well have the same detailing...
For Hermès, what began as a maker of leather equestrian goods for European noblemen would eventually grow into one of the most storied fashion labels in the world. In 1837, German-born French entrepreneur Thierry Hermès opened a saddle and harness purveyor in Paris. Gradually, the house extended into accessories and luggage for its riders, and today, in paying homage to its origins, the family-run luxury brand resurfaces horse motifs in everything from clothing and modernist jewelry to pillows and handbags.
The first top-handled bag ever produced by Hermès was the Haut à courroies, which made its debut in 1892. A tall bag secured with a folded leather flap (fastened with bridle-inspired straps), it was designed to transport riding boots and a harness.
As the world made the switch from horse to automobile, the bag adapted, becoming a multifunctional travel satchel instead of a designated saddlebag. Today, 120 years later, the HAC remains in Hermès’s line — and its distinctive flap and clasping straps have laid the groundwork for some of the house’s other iconic bags.
In the 1930s, Robert Dumas (son-in-law to Émile-Maurice Hermès, Thierry’s grandson) designed a smaller, trapezoidal take on the flap bag with a handle and two side straps. Later, actress Grace Kelly, then engaged to Prince Rainier of Monaco, is said to have used one of these bags to conceal her pregnancy during the 1950s. Because she was photographed constantly, the coverage catapulted her handbag to international popularity.
In 1977, Hermès officially renamed the model for her, and the Kelly bag was born. Each Kelly bag takes between 18 and 25 hours to produce, and its 680 hand stitches owe solely to one Hermès artisan.
Robert Dumas was also responsible for another one of the brand’s most iconic offerings: the launch of its first silk scarf on the occasion of Hermès’s 100th anniversary in 1937. Based on a woodblock designed by Dumas and printed on Chinese silk, the accessory was an immediate hit.
Today, vintage Hermès scarves, typically adorned in rich colors and elaborate patterns, serve many functions, just as they did back then. Well-heeled women wear it on their heads, around their necks and, in a genius piece of cross-promotion, tied to the straps of their Hermès bags. Kelly even once used one as a sling for her broken arm.
In 1981, Robert Dumas’s son Jean-Louis Dumas, then Hermès chairman, found himself sitting next to French actress and musician Jane Birkin on a plane, where she was complaining about finding a suitable carryall for the necessary accoutrements of motherhood. After the two travelers were properly introduced, Birkin helped design Jean-Louis’s most famous contribution to the Hermès canon: the Birkin bag, a roomy, square catchall with the HAC’s trademark leather flap top and the addition of a lock and key.
Owing to the brand’s legendary commitment to deft, handcrafted construction, the Birkin is an investment that is coveted by collectors everywhere.
While the Kelly and Birkin may be standouts, gracing the arms of everyone from royal heiresses to hip-hop stars in the past few decades, the handbags are but a small part of Hermès’s fashion offerings.
Since the 1920s, the brand has produced some of the most desirable leather goods in the world. There’s the Constance bag, a favorite of Jacqueline Kennedy, the recently relaunched 1970s-era Evelyne and, on the vintage market, a slew of designs dating back to the 1920s.
Good design never goes out of style. Find a variety of vintage Hermès handbags, day dresses, shoes and more on 1stDibs.
An integral part of fashion, handbags and purses have been indispensable accessories ever since we began to carry around personal items. Level of craftsmanship, style and shape matters — from coin purses in ancient Greece to early 20th-century opera bags and onward, handbags have evolved considerably over the years to meet our needs and desires, whether or not you happen to be prioritizing functionality over a flashy exterior.
Once, a single “It” handbag ruled each fashion season. No more. Today, lovers of vintage handbags are savvier and have a wider range of shopping options. Nevertheless, classics created by the likes of Louis Vuitton, Dior and Balenciaga still rule.
“It is not a fashion bag — it is a statement bag,” says Mightychic's Debra Kent of Hermès's widely beloved accessories. “When you carry an iconic Hermès bag — Birkin, Kelly, Constance — no one knows how long you have been into this culture or if you are a newbie. Your status is validated immediately.”
First released in 1997, Fendi's Baguette rose to fame along with Carrie Bradshaw, the Sex and the City character portrayed by Sarah Jessica Parker. Recently, the design has seen such a resurgence in popularity that Fendi has reissued it.
They are part of design history, so owning a handbag has meaning. As New York–based fashion historian Sarah C. Byrd says, “You have made the choice to invest in this piece because you understand the value of it in the past and in the future to come.”
From a 1980s Chanel black leather quilted mini buckle bag to the rare Hermès Birkin 30cm Himalayan with diamond hardware to a range of 19th-century bags, find a rich variety of vintage and designer handbags and purses spanning numerous brands on 1stDibs — seasonal “It” designation no longer needed.
What these styles lack in name recognition they more than make up for in cachet.
Before the Birkin there was the Haut à Courroies, which has become the chic carryall of choice for the league's most stylish athletes.
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Find out why this under-the-radar piece is so exceptional.
The iconic Birkin bag is much coveted — and often copied. Find out how to tell the real deal from a convincing fake. Of course, you don't have to worry about this on 1stDibs, where every seller is highly vetted.
More than a fashion statement, this iconic style continually appreciates in value.
A symbol of luxury and elegance, the design has a storied past and a legion of devoted collectors.
When the name of a bag is as well-known as its brand, you know it's a classic.