Vintage Tole Pineapple Chandelier
Located in West Palm Beach, FL
This whimsical vintage tole chandelier is a quintessential expression of Hollywood Regency glamour, celebrating the iconic symbol of hospitality: the pineapple. The central fixture f...
Paint
Vintage Boho Pineapple Chandelier
Located in West Palm Beach, FL
This exquisite vintage chandelier is a masterful distillation of Hollywood Regency glamour and tropical whimsy. Symbolizing hospitality and warmth, the fixture features a grand centr...
Brass
Brass pineapple chandelier, 1970s
Located in Leuven, Vlaams Gewest
Elegant brass pineapple leaf chandelier by Boulanger, a Belgian lighting company. Hollywood regency style Good vintage condition with patina on the brass. Tested and ready for use ...
Brass
Vintage Carved Wooden Pineapple Chandelier
Located in Sandwich, MA
Unusual carved wooden pineapple candle chandelier, mid 20th Century. Painted and gilded wooden pineapple with leaves, supporting six reverse curved gilded metal arms supporting peta...
Iron
Vintage Coastal Painted Metal Pineapple Chandelier
Located in West Palm Beach, FL
A fabulous vintage Coastal lantern. A beautiful patinated metal fixture with beautiful pineapple detail. Four arm lights in the center. Acquired from a Palm Beach estate.
Metal
Brass and Chrome Pineapple Chandelier, 1970s
Located in Leuven, Vlaams Gewest
Beautiful, eye-catching pineapple leaf chandelier made from brass and chrome with eight lightpoints and an opaline center piece. This regency chandelier strongly resembles the sty...
Brass
Painted Pineapple Chandelier, France, circa 1950s
Located in Isle Sur La Sorgue, Vaucluse
Fun and rather lovely painted iron and tôle four-light chandelier from the 1940s-1950s. The body is painted gold and the leaves and arms shiny dark green. Complete with original chai...
Metal
Italian Pineapple Chandelier Cream Carved Wood 1970s
Located in Hastings, GB
Beautiful carved pineapple chandelier with gilt acanthus leaf details and gilt fronds Soft
Metal
Midcentury Hollywood Regency Murano Glass Pineapple Chandelier
By Maison Jansen
Located in Antwerp, BE
Rare circa 1970s brass and Murano glass multi arm chandelier with pineapple motif. Made in Italy. A beautiful timeless high quality chandelier that will enhance any setting.Good ...
Metal, Brass
Pair of Large Midcentury Metal Pineapple Chandeliers
Located in Palm Beach, FL
Impressive large-scale pair of twelve-light black metal chandeliers in the form of stylized pineapples. Perfectly combining modern with traditional. Newly wired.
Metal
Italian Ceramic and Brass Pineapple Chandelier, circa 1970s
Located in Antwerp, BE
Beautiful ceramic pineapple chandelier with gilt acanthus leaf details and gilt fronds. There
Brass
Small Handmade Italian Porcelain and Metal Pineapple Chandelier
Located in West Palm Beach, FL
Charming Small Intricate detailed porcelain pineapple with 5 light forged metal frame. Perfect for a charming kitchen table for country French setting. Comes with 3ft white chain and...
Porcelain
Single Bronze and Brass Hanging Pineapple Chandelier / Pendant
Located in Delray Beach, FL
Beautiful single pineapple hanging light , made of bronze and solid brass with four 60/watt light great patina , decorative for indoor or outdoor. Ready to use. Original canopy incl...
Brass, Bronze
English Style Gilt Tole Leafy 12 Light Tiered Pineapple Chandelier
Located in Bridgeport, CT
A fine and very decorative twelve arm Pineapple Chandelier with fine form and finish. Two tiered
Metal, Other
1970s Italian Design White Metal Pineapple Chandelier with Six Lights
Located in Stamford, CT
Large white painted metal Italian pineapple chandelier with six lights. U.S. sockets. Good
Metal
Pineapple Chandelier in Lacquered Wood and Gilt Brass, 1950s
Located in Antwerp, BE
Pineapple style chandelier in lacquered wood and gilt brass. The light requires eight single E14 screw fit light bulbs (40Watt max.) LED compatible. Measures: Diameter 67 cm. ...
Brass
Brass and Cut Crystal Pineapple Chandelier with 5-Arm Light
By Maison Charles-Jansen
Located in Antwerp, BE
Gilt brass and cut crystal pineapple chandelier made in France, circa 1960-1970. It needs 7 x E14
Crystal, Brass
$5,985
H 18 in W 15.5 in D 15.5 in
1940's French Regency Gilt& Patinated Bronze Pineapple Chandelier Maison Charles
By Maison Charles
Located in Opa Locka, FL
1940's French Regency Gilt & Patinated Bronze Pineapple Chandelier by Maison Charles. Heavy, highly
Bronze
$2,784 / item
H 27.56 in Dm 24.81 in
Two Modern Six-Light Painted and Parcel-Gilt Pineapple Chandelier
Located in Antwerp, BE
Six light chandelier crafted in wood and gilt and white painted metal in a classic composition with leaves fronds at the top over a tole pineapple. These exquisite six-light chande...
Brass, Metal
Vintage 1970s Brass Pineapple Chandelier with Eight Lights, New Old Stock
Located in Stamford, CT
Solid brass pineapple chandelier. Eight lights. Includes original canopy and chain. New old stock.
Brass
1970s Italian Pineapple Chandelier, Faux Bamboo, Eight Lights, Carved Wood
Located in Stamford, CT
Italian carved solid wood pineapple, faux bamboo chandelier. Never used stock from the 1970s. Eight lights. Beautifully made light wood and gilt finish.
Wood
$3,877
H 16.74 in W 29.73 in D 29.73 in
Brushed Metal and Gilt Metal Pineapple Chandelier in the Style of Maison Charles
By Maison Charles
Located in Marcq-en-Barœul, Hauts-de-France
This very nice pineapple chandelier is made of brushed metal and gilt metal. This is a French work
Metal
$2,599Sale Price|43% Off
H 16.93 in W 28.75 in D 28.75 in
Brushed Metal and Gilt Metal Pineapple Chandelier in the Style of Maison Baguès
By Maison Charles
Located in Marcq-en-Barœul, Hauts-de-France
This very nice Pineapple chandelier is made of brushed metal and gilt metal. This is a very nice
Metal, Steel
$2,776
H 27.56 in Dm 25.6 in
Colorful 6-Armed Pineapple Chandelier In The Style of Maison Jansen, 1970s
Located in Cork, IE
condition, this impressive light fixture is most reminiscent of the golden pineapple chandeliers "Lustre
Brass
$5,640
H 47.25 in Dm 23.63 in
Italian Gilt Iron and Cut Crystal Pineapple Chandelier by G. Banci, circa 1970s
By Giovanni Banci
Located in Wiesbaden, Hessen
A beautiful pineapple chandelier by Giovanni Banci, Italy, ca.1970s. This handcrafted chandelier is
Crystal, Iron
$7,970
H 36.23 in Dm 10.63 in
Art Deco "Pineapple" Chandelier, circa 1940 by Seguso in Murano Glass, Italy
By Seguso Vetri d'Arte
Located in Merida, Yucatan
Beautiful Art Deco lantern manufactured in hand blown and worked Murano glass and brass hardware. The technique in which the glass is executed is known and attributed to be by Vetrer...
Brass
$1,895
H 25 in Dm 24.5 in
Hollywood Regency Italian Pineapple Painted Tole And Wood Chandelier - 6 Arms
Located in Kennesaw, GA
This is a Hollywood Regency era Italian pineapple chandelier with six arms. It is comprised of tole
Metal
1940s French Five Arm Pineapple Gilt Chandelier
Located in Tetbury, Gloucestershire
1940s French five arm gilt pineapple chandelier. Rewired and PAT tested to UK standards
Metal
$3,059Sale Price|20% Off
H 24.02 in W 27.96 in D 27.96 in
Pineapple Bronze Chandelier with 8 Arms in the Style of Maison Charles
By Maison Charles
Located in Marcq-en-Barœul, Hauts-de-France
This very nice pineapple chandelier with 8 arms is made of finely chiseled bronze. This pendant
Bronze
Metal Pineapple Chandelier
Located in Stamford, CT
Circa 1970s Steel and Zinc multi arm chandelier with pineapple motif. Shades not included. Made in Italy. Please note of wear consistent with age including stripped paint, patina, an...
Steel
Antique Mazarin Pineapple Chandelier
Located in STRAČOV, CZ
Antique Mazarin Pineapple Chandelier Six-armed antique Louis XIV gilt bronze chandelier with
Bronze
Pineapple Chandelier Hollywood Regency Style
Located in Long Island, NY
Six-arm shabby chic pineapple chandelier, maintains original paint, with minor rustification. The
Metal
Italian Carved Giltwood Pineapple Chandelier
Located in Charlotte, NC
Vintage italian carved wood Pineapple design chandelier
Unavailable
H 29.53 in W 29.53 in D 29.53 in
Very rare, signed, Murano Italian pineapple chandelier with colourful crystal
Located in Worthing, GB
A rare opportunity to buy a signed Italian pineapple chandelier from ten 1950’s. Complete with no
Crystal, Metal
Unavailable
H 30.71 in Dm 26.78 in
Brass Pineapple Chandelier Hollywood Regency by Boulanger, 1960s, Belgium
By S.A. Boulanger
Located in Sint Joris Weert, BE
Beautiful, eye-catching pineapple leaf chandelier made from brass and chrome with eight lightpoints. Very good condition. 1960s, Belgium Measures: Height 78cm Diameter 68cm
Brass, Chrome
Mid 20th C Iron and Painted Tole Pineapple Chandelier
Located in Santa Rosa, CA
Great looking classic Italian painted iron and tole chandelier with white and green paint original and with great patina
Tôle
Pineapple Chandelier
Located in New York, NY
Gilt metal Italian pineapple shaped chandelier with gilt metal leaves and arms, amber glass body. 6 lights. 24" min. drop, 25" diameter
1950s Pineapple Chandelier
Located in Copenhagen K, DK
Fabulously opulent and detailed vintage French chandelier in gilt and silver-plated brass. The chandelier has eight lights surrounding a gorgeous pineapple centre. Could be a super c...
Brass
CHARMING TOLE PINEAPPLE CHANDELIER
Located in Essex, MA
Tole and Wooden Pineapple Chandelier, Gilded
Tôle
Pineapple Chandelier - France, 1950s
Located in Isle Sur La Sorgue, Vaucluse
A fun pineapple chandelier with 5 lights. The body of the pineapple is painted white, and the top
Gilt Tole Pineapple Chandelier
Located in Hopewell, NJ
8 arms, wonderful classic motiffe, big and lush with wonderful pineapple leaves jutting from the top of the fruit.
Tôle, Iron
Hollywood Regency Carved Pineapple Chandelier
Located in Redding, CT
Hollywood Regency carved pineapple chandelier. Wooden hand-carved and gilded with iron.
Iron
Antique French Toleware Pineapple Chandelier
Located in South Salem, NY
Playful antique French Country style toleware pineapple chandelier, made in the early 20th century
Metal
Vintage Brass Pineapple Chandelier, 1960s
By S.A. Boulanger
Located in Leuven, Vlaams Gewest
Beautiful, eye-catching pineapple leaf chandelier made from brass with six candelabra lightpoints. This regency chandelier strongly resembles the style of Maison Jansen and has a ...
Brass
Vintage Brass Pineapple Chandelier, 1960s
By Maison Jansen
Located in Leuven, Vlaams Gewest
Beautiful, eye-catching pineapple leaf chandelier made from brass with six candelabra light points. This Regency chandelier strongly resembles the style of Maison Jansen and has a...
Brass
Original Hand-Made Tole Pineapple Chandelier
Located in New Orleans, LA
Original hand-made tole pineapple chandelier.
Iron
Glamorous Large Gilt Metal Pineapple Chandelier
Located in Hopewell, NJ
Wonderful Italian Classic pineapple motif chandelier, warm and glitzy gilded metal, eight arms, 40-60 watt each. Custom brass shades.
Brass and chrome pineapple chandelier, 1970s
Located in Leuven, Vlaams Gewest
Beautiful, eye-catching pineapple leaf chandelier made from brass and chrome with eight lightpoints. This regency chandelier strongly resembles the style of maison jansen. Good...
Brass, Chrome
Brass and Chrome Pineapple Chandelier, 1970s
By S.A. Boulanger
Located in Leuven, Vlaams Gewest
Beautiful, eye-catching pineapple leaf chandelier made from brass and chrome with eight lightpoints. This regency chandelier strongly resembles the style of maison jansen. Good...
Brass, Chrome
Tin and Plaster Six Light Pineapple Chandelier
Located in Water Mill, NY
Tin and Plaster Six Light Pineapple Chandelier with Original Ceiling Cap
Tin
1960s Pineapple Chandelier by Maison Flor Art
Located in Saint-Ouen, FR
Lustre Ananas 1960 Maison Flor Art 1960, en verre deux cuissons intérieur blanc extérieur jaune pâle travaillé façon écorce d'ananas feuille en fer doré one ampoule 1960s Pineappl...
Glass
Iron Pineapple Chandelier with 8 Lights, France ca. 1920
Located in Atlanta, GA
Iron Pineapple Chandelier with 8 Lights, France ca. 1920. Wired for the US.
Iron
Sold
H 35.04 in W 20.48 in D 20.48 in
Mid Century Italian Polychrome Painted Iron Pineapple Chandelier
Located in Hastings, GB
A beautifully decorative Italian chandelier, crafted in Iron to resemble a hanging pineapple and hand finished in green and pale-yellow. Dating to the 1970’s it has its original Made...
Iron
Brass and Chrome Maison Jansen Pineapple Chandelier, 1970s
Located in Leuven, Vlaams Gewest
Beautiful, eye-catching pineapple leaf chandelier made from brass and chrome with eight lightpoints. This regency chandelier strongly resembles the style of Maison Jansen. Pati...
Brass, Chrome
Hand Painted Metal Figural Pineapple Chandelier Light Fixture
Located in Van Nuys, CA
Vibrant and colorful midcentury metal pineapple table lamp. Large-scale pineapple design. Complimenting pineapple themed table lamp listed as well. # 2007455 Measures: 27" wide x 2...
Metal, Steel
Vintage Coastal Regency Patinated Metal Tole Pineapple Chandelier
By Currey & Co.
Located in North Fort Myers, FL
Some scuffs to the painted finish as seen in photos. One scuff to the bottom ball. The vendor has confirmed this piece is in working order. DescriptionAdd a tropical regency statem...
Metal
A 40's American Painted Tole Pineapple Chandelier
Located in Kent, Dover
An American painted tole chandelier in the form of a pineapple (Southern Hospitality).
Pineapple Chandelier in Lacquered Wood and Gilt Brass, 1950s
Located in Saint-Ouen, FR
Pineapple chandelier in lacquered wood and gilt brass. Gadroons shape cache-bélière (hide hook
Wood
1950s Carved Giltwood Italian Gold and White Pineapple Chandelier
By Maison Jansen
Located in Antwerp, BE
Remarkably vintage carvings, gold gilt and white pineapple decorated Italian chandelier ornament. Article contains six E14 lights, scrolling iron arms with arrow marks, gold leaf and...
Metal, Brass
PAIR CHANDELIERS
Located in New Orleans, LA
TOLE PINEAPPLE CHANDELIERS WITH EIGHT LIGHTS PROBABLY JANSEN
Tôle
Vintage Pineapple Metal Tole Chandelier 6 Lights
Located in West Palm Beach, FL
Lovely vintage metal tole pineapple chandelier. Newly wired. 6 lights with cute little pineapples
Metal
Sold
H 15.56 in W 29.93 in D 29.93 in
In the Style of Maison Charles. Gilt Metal, Brass and Steel 8-Light Pineapple
By Maison Charles
Located in Marcq-en-Barœul, Hauts-de-France
This nice and decorative 8-light pineapple chandelier is made of gilt metal, brass and steel. This
Metal, Brass, Steel
1950s Pineapple Toleware Chandelier
Located in Hastings, GB
Stunning colored toleware pineapple chandelier circa 1950s-1960s, Italy/France The central
Metal
Pineapple Chandelier French
Located in Munich, DE
French nickel-plated bronze six arm chandelier with a pineapple in the centre. 1965.
Bronze, Nickel
Eight-Light Antique Pineapple Chandelier
Located in Bronx, NY
This lovely chandelier was originally one of two designed for a Manhattan Hotel. The arms are palm fronds cut of metal as are the pineapple leaves and beau-beces. The pineapple its...
Midcentury Tole Pineapple Chandelier, in White
Located in West Palm Beach, FL
Midcentury tole pineapple chandelier, in white, fitted with six lights, newly wired.
Tôle
Mid-Century Hollywood Regency Pineapple Chandelier
Located in New York, NY
Mid-century Regency Pineapple chandelier of high quality. Hollywood Regency chandelier stylized
Brass, Bronze
Brass and Chrome Pineapple Chandelier, 1970s
Located in Leuven, Vlaams Gewest
Beautiful, eye-catching pineapple leaf chandelier made from brass and chrome with eight light points. This Regency chandelier strongly resembles the style of Maison Jansen. Goo...
Brass, Chrome
Vintage Coastal Currey and Company Pineapple Chandelier
By Currey & Co.
Located in West Palm Beach, FL
Illuminate your home with our Vintage Coastal Currey And Company Pineapple Chandelier. This
Wrought Iron
Maison Charles Brass "Pineapple "Chandelier - French, 1940s
By Maison Charles et Fils
Located in Isle Sur La Sorgue, Vaucluse
Chic and fun French 6-light chandelier in solid brass. Heavy and well-made. The column features a lovely cast brass pineapple with beautifully designed leaves. Star-shaped bobeches....
Midcentury Brass and Chrome Maison Jansen Pineapple Chandelier
By S.A. Boulanger, Maison Jansen
Located in Leuven, Vlaams Gewest
Beautiful, eye-catching pineapple leaf chandelier made from brass and chrome with eight lightpoints. This Regency chandelier strongly resembles the style of Maison Jansen. Very...
Brass, Chrome
Midcentury Brass and Chrome Maison Jansen Pineapple Chandelier
By S.A. Boulanger, Maison Jansen
Located in Leuven, Vlaams Gewest
Beautiful, eye-catching pineapple leaf chandelier made from brass and chrome with eight lightpoints. This Regency chandelier strongly resembles the style of Maison Jansen. Very...
Brass, Chrome
Glamorous White Painted Tole and Iron Pineapple Chandelier
Located in Hopewell, NJ
Classic symbol of "home", a large iron pineapple is central to this Italian six-arm Hollywood Regency style chandelier. Painted a matte white. Ceiling cap included. 60 watt bulb per ...
Iron
Painted Italian Wood & Metal Pineapple Chandelier, circa 1940s
Located in Los Angeles, CA
Italian painted wood & metal pineapple shaped four light chandelier. The fixture is newly rewired with drip wax candle covers. Includes chain & canopy.
Metal
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H 26.38 in W 33.47 in D 33.47 in
Exceptional 1950’s Maison Charles Att. Gilt Pineapple Chandelier
By Maison Charles
Located in Hastings, GB
An outstanding chandelier of enormous scale, modelled as a pineapple with eight gilt branches, each housing a single e14 (small screw in) bulb holder. The huge bronze pineapple to ...
Bronze, Iron
Late 20th Century Coastal Regency Metal Tole Pineapple Chandelier
Located in North Fort Myers, FL
This striking late 20th-century Italian tole chandelier features a bold pineapple centerpiece, symbolizing hospitality and warmth. Crafted with intricate detailing, the painted metal...
Metal
Pair of Massive Hand-Wrought Iron Twelve-Arm Pineapple Chandeliers
Located in Palm Beach, FL
A pair of very large scale hand wrought iron pineapple chandeliers in the original finish, with 12
Pineapple Chandelier
Located in West Palm Beach, FL
Whimsical painted metal pineapple chandelier with ten arms.
Metal
Pineapple Chandelier
Located in Hudson, NY
Old wood carved pineapple and candle cups with five arms adorned with delicately wrought metal foliage in old patinated gilding. Rewired, 5' chain and canopy, new paper shades optional.
Metal
French Tole Pineapple Chandelier
Located in New York, NY
French Tole Pineapple Chandelier, C. 1950
Metal
Pineapple Chandelier, circa 1940
Located in Wargrave, Berkshire
Gilded metal eight-branch pineapple chandelier, France, circa 1940.
1940's Pineapple Chandelier
Located in London, GB
A large 1940's Continental tole and gilt wood ten branch chandelier with a central pineapple and fronds. Rewired.
Giltwood
Vintage Pineapple Chandelier, c. 1940s
Located in Los Angeles, CA
A Vintage Pineapple Chandelier,c. 1940s, with 6 metal gilt arms.
Metal
Vintage French Tole Pineapple Chandelier
Located in West Sussex, GB
Quite unique pineapple chandelier from France, circa 1960 Lovely vibrant green color to the
Large Maitland Smith Pineapple Chandelier
Located in West Palm Beach, FL
Wonderfully whimsical Maitland Smith hanging pineapple light fixture with brass leaves and strapping.
Brass
Very Big Pineapple Chandelier, 1970
By Veronese
Located in Saint-Ouen, FR
Large bronze chandelier, 12 branches with twelve lights and one center with three lights. Pineapples in Murano glass. France, 1970.
$13,532 / item
H 49.22 in Dm 70.87 in
Brass and Parchment Paper Chandelier by Diego Mardegan for Glustin Luminaires
By Diego Mardegan
Located in Saint-Ouen, IDF
Impressive chandelier made of white enameled brass arms holding six beautiful parchment paper shades, which can be adjusted thanks to the handle of each socket. Signed by the arti...
Brass
Chandeliers — simple in form, inspired by candelabras and originally made of wood or iron — first made an appearance in early churches. For those wealthy enough to afford them for their homes in the medieval period, a chandelier's suspended lights likely exuded imminent danger, as lit candles served as the light source for fixtures of the era. Things have thankfully changed since then, and antique chandeliers and pendant lights are popular in many interiors today.
While gas lighting during the late 18th century represented an upgrade for chandeliers — and gas lamps would long inspire Danish architect and pioneering modernist lighting designer Poul Henningsen — it would eventually be replaced with the familiar electric lighting of today.
The key difference between a pendant light and a chandelier is that a pendant incorporates only a single bulb into its design. Don’t mistake this for simplicity, however. An Art Deco–styled homage to Sputnik from Murano glass artisans Giovanni Dalla Fina, with handcrafted decorative elements supported by a chrome frame, is just one stunning example of the elaborate engineering that can be incorporated into every component of a chandelier. (Note: there is more than one lighting fixture that shares its name with the iconic mid-century-era satellite — see Gino Sarfatti’s design too.)
Chandeliers have evolved over time, but their classic elegance has remained unchanged.
Not only will the right chandelier prove impressive in a given room, but it can also offer a certain sense of practicality. These fixtures can easily illuminate an entire space, while their elevated position prevents them from creating glare or straining one’s eyes.
Certain materials, like glass, can complement naturally lit settings without stealing the show. Brass, on the other hand, can introduce an alluring, warm glow. While LEDs have earned a bad reputation for their perceived harsh bluish lights and a loss of brightness over their life span, the right design choices can help harness their lighting potential and create the perfect mood. A careful approach to lighting can transform your room into a peaceful and cozy nook, ideal for napping, reading or working.
For midsize spaces, a wall light or sconce can pull the room together and get the lighting job done. Perforated steel rings underneath five bands of handspun aluminum support a rich diffusion of light within Alvar Aalto's Beehive pendant light, but if you’re looking to brighten a more modest room, perhaps a minimalist solution is what you’re after. The mid-century modern furniture designer Charlotte Perriand devised her CP-1 wall lamps in the 1960s, in which a repositioning of sheet-metal plates can redirect light as needed.
The versatility and variability of these lighting staples mean that, when it comes to finding something like the perfect chandelier, you’ll never be left hanging. From the natural world-inspired designs of the Art Nouveau era to the classic beauty of Paul Ferrante's fixtures, there is a style for every room.
With designs for pendant lights and chandeliers across eras, colors and materials, you’ll never run out of options to explore on 1stDibs — shop a collection today that includes antique Art Deco chandeliers, Stilnovo chandeliers, Baccarat chandeliers and more.
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